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munyhngrydizzle	Date: November 29, 2003 @ 8:00 PM it kinda gets old when you hear artists bash other artists for bein fake or perpatratin,just cuz theyre lyrics are about stuff they havent experienced,i mean if it sells do it,who cares if i talk about funs if ive never shot anyone......?i write alot of what happens to me,but im not gonna get on someone cuz they talk about something they havent experienced...i mean how many of you stay true in your lyrics in every single song.....?
blooddshedd	Date: November 30, 2003 @ 12:12 AM its lukewarm buttermilk
Jennae	Date: November 30, 2003 @ 2:44 AM raises hand
GeneHilbert	Date: November 30, 2003 @ 3:01 AM like dude.........totality
Veracohr	Date: November 30, 2003 @ 5:59 AM To me it's a differnece between being a 'performer' and an 'artist'. A 'performer' does what s/he does for the money, basically, while an 'artist' or 'song-writer' and/or 'lyricist' would be more likely to have some personal background that led to the lyrics. But I'm just arguing sematics. For a lot of listeners, though, it's important that the person singing to have actually experienced the things that brought the lyrics about. Because there is a certain emotion to be brought to the singing that some random singer-of-other-people's-words would not have, not having gone through those experiences. But the person who wrote the lyrics, if they went through those experiences, would be able to imbue the words with potent emotion and realism (unless they were a label-paid hack who wrote meaningless lyrics for Britney Spears-like acts.) I was mildly devastated when I learned that Enya doesn't write her own lyrics. I love Enya's music a lot, but I was flipping through some liner notes and noticed that all the lyrics were written by somebody else. Enya herself composes all the music and sings, but doesn't actually write the lyrics. For a while her music was much less meaningful to me, but I guess I got over it because I love it again. But as for me, I don't write music with words. Back when I did, it was all me baby! But then again, those songs were pretty fucking terrible.
Tudris	Date: November 30, 2003 @ 7:33 AM I agree with Veracohr. Bands that don't do their own lyrics (and those who write their own lyrics about things they've never even done) make it difficult to connect with the music.
KevBrock	Date: November 30, 2003 @ 11:50 AM There is absolutely nothing wrong with bands not doing their own lyrics. I mean, some bands can't write lyrics for shit. Elton John never wrote his own lyrics (Bernie Taupin anyone?). The Grateful Dead never wrote any of their lyrics, Robert Hunter wrote most of the Dead lyrics. So are you going to call them fake, only because they don't write their own lyrics? Yeesh. It's just music. Who cares if people don't write their own lyrics or not.
trillcitypoet	Date: November 30, 2003 @ 2:25 PM music is a form of expression, no matter who wrote it. personally, i feel that you should write your own lyrics, but if there is something lacking in a song and someone else has something perfect...then go for it. to-each-is-his-own.
GeneHilbert	Date: November 30, 2003 @ 3:02 PM I do some killer cover's - and play the shit out of them. Some -I believe and I have been told by others - are even better than the original artist. My originals I write solely..... however in collaborations I have writing partners - there contributions will not and should not be diminished. So.... I think this is more of a perception issue.
disintegration	Date: December 1, 2003 @ 11:12 AM i would call fake people who has a hollow image and lyrics that are just to gather audience. point case, bands like linkin park, wich is actually a pop-band disguised as nu-metal, with their catchy tunes and their pseudo-depressed vibe, with lyrics that are too vague and generalizing that the teens will be like "omg, they tulk to mee!!1" and stuff. that kind of things seems fake to me
djatari	Date: December 1, 2003 @ 2:17 PM Perhaps this whole subject is not about who wrote the lyrics, and who performed them.. but rather whether an artist is authentic. For example, Britney Spears can get on TV and talk about how her new album came straight from the heart.. but when it all boils down to it.. she's having a producer produce tracks that she lays the vocals down to, and should you put her in a studio, she wouldn't know the first button to press. This is why so many people generally dislike her. Had she said, I'm laying down some phat vocals for Joe Bob's awesome pop-track.. she'd be in a completely different ballgame. She'd be known as an MC, and a Singer.. and as a singer, she's not exactly a newbie, in fact, she's damned good. So writing tracks about things you know nothing about... while isn't incorrect, or correct, or right, or wrong.. it is NOT being authentic. Saying you're G != Being a G. Sorry 50 Cent.
rhodesdr	Date: December 2, 2003 @ 3:30 PM I think it's different in hip-hop, and I think that's the point of the original post... The best example being why Vanilla Ice looked like such a dumbass back when he was "popular" -- because he was a rich white kid rapping about things he hadn't experienced... and becuase of that fakeness he was dissed by everyone on the scene (including rappers who sucked just as bad!) On the other side, look at Will Smith -- he was pretty much the first pop-oriented rapper, but he was talking about his world at the time -- which was high school in rich suburbia. Another example -- the Beastie Boys started out as a punk band in the early 80s, but then turned it into a rap group being influenced by that scene in NY at the time... Their lyrics were about "white boy shit" (as Chuck D puts it) but they got respect because that's who they were and it was real... Basically, I think all artists in all genres who are respected and/or remembered relate their personal experience through their music.
BenRebel	Date: December 5, 2003 @ 3:50 PM Rhodesdr I both agree and dis-agree with you .. (now that sounds fake right lol!) In the begining hiphop was true ..true also in the sense that it was also inocent a baby growing and as a child growing your influenced by your surroundings also peer pressure and the like.. but then a unfunny thing happened hiphop grew up had alot of kids ..some had relations outside there music family and they had kids and some stayied within there family good ? Bad? can I really say? NO .. So are they writting give you a personal door to there life?? some are.. but when a person says dddaaahh ddaahh and it becomes a hit real words are over looked thats sad in ANY MUSIC FORUM So now what? we have alot of kids saying alot of things.. IN MY OPINON alot of the new songs are not saying a thing but there is a reason : THERE NOT SUPPOSE TOO the heart of the one writting it is not writting it for the love of Hip Hop but for the love of Money not to find and answer.. but to ask the question Did you listen to what I said I said nothing just for you to buy it.. As a writer your writting a hook for what reason? Club play? it better be bouncy and SIMPLE radio play? SIMPLE thats business but still what are you writting for? if its Money they I see no problem with that.. if its because you have something to say just stick to your guns thats whats gives it the flavor I'm for that too.. what was the piont to all that junk I wrote: simple hip hop now grown into two forms the lyrist and the Performer one writes to open our eyes in a funky way so we see the piont one writes and says I have no piont but I sound funky so just nod yo head

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