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Philos60	Date: January 26, 2004 @ 11:04 AM The music industry is interested obviously only to that, which can be sold with profit. In order to find this out, the consumer behavior and sales figures are analyzed. The commercial product 'music piece' has to meet the taste of the broad mass as far as possible. As probably most know here, the musical taste of the mass is not just fastidious. Thus many music pieces of the amateurs and independents remain unheard and undiscovered. If there were such a thing like an "education broadly put on in the music", the musical formation level of the mass could possibly raise gradually. But this seems to be an utopia. As a side effect of the free mp3 Internet offer more and more users can listen to new music, which they normally do not get via radio or tv. This influence of the Internet on the musical taste of the listeners is not to be underestimated. It seems to be, that the music industry just suffers from turnover losses, because a new music culture is arising by the InterNet gradually, which rejects the outdated, sterile and flattened commercial music offer. A majority of the music need is already covered by the world-wide free mp3 offer, and the listeners discover new "sounds & rhythms", which extend their musical horizon. The "attraction novelty" changes the taste. The young generation, which grow up now along with the InterNet, will essentially determines the musical consumer behavior in the future. The music industry should follow this trend. Perhaps also a change of the management of the music industry is necessary by the new generation....? Philos60 (Phil Osoph)
mawcs	Date: January 26, 2004 @ 11:32 AM huh? I don't mean to be a jerk, but what is your point. What is your thesis. First sentace(s) = thesis.
Svensta	Date: January 26, 2004 @ 1:25 PM 'The young generation, which grow up now along with the InterNet, will essentially determines the musical consumer behavior in the future' I wonder about this. The Association has been very adept at crafting what it is numerous generations will enjoy on a mass scale. I would imagine (looking at Britney's and assorted Boy Bands sales at their peak), that they continue to hold some ability in this matter. Youth will always be served. However, some firms can deftly manipulate youth to their own ends, and this is one of those.
Philos60	Date: January 26, 2004 @ 3:48 PM @mawcs You would like to have a "thesis"? As a consequence of the behaviour of the music industry(MI) up to now, your music is worthless, if it can't be sold. Other ways are needed to get new unkown music to the audience, because the MI will not do it for you. This DMusic "portal" as an example here is an alternative solution with no guarantee of success. But the InterNet has still the potential to get independent music to a new audience...
mawcs	Date: January 26, 2004 @ 4:26 PM may be a way for the unkown artist/composer to have an audience outside of the mainstream ideas of "music distribution." But, the "business" of music is owned. No sense in fighting that. If we want to change things, we have to change the "culture" of music in general and forget about changing a closed, private business instituion. On the flip-side. The "business" has always tried to control the "culture" of music in order to support their business. Hence, the current onslaught of RIAA suits. It would behoove the industry to pay attention to the elements of culture that they cannot control, in order that they might adapt to the new "culture" that we are participating in the evolution of." id="82823">Ahh, clarity is a beautiful thing. Thanks philos. I agree, the industry's opinion of music and my opinion of music vary greatly. DMusic is a part of the changing "culture" of music. DMusic (and similar sites) may be a way for the unkown artist/composer to have an audience outside of the mainstream ideas of "music distribution." But, the "business" of music is owned. No sense in fighting that. If we want to change things, we have to change the "culture" of music in general and forget about changing a closed, private business instituion. On the flip-side. The "business" has always tried to control the "culture" of music in order to support their business. Hence, the current onslaught of RIAA suits. It would behoove the industry to pay attention to the elements of culture that they cannot control, in order that they might adapt to the new "culture" that we are participating in the evolution of.
Philos60	Date: January 27, 2004 @ 5:35 AM YOU SAID: "It would behoove the industry to pay attention to the elements of culture that they cannot control, in order that they might adapt to the new "culture" that we are participating in the evolution of." I think, that's one of the most important challenge to the MI in order to survive!
mawcs	Date: January 27, 2004 @ 10:44 AM I agree.
mawcs	Date: January 27, 2004 @ 10:46 AM This thread is a little grey-scale. (gratuitous emoticons) RIAA
TameasDust	Date: January 27, 2004 @ 1:17 PM
Little-Nemo	Date: January 27, 2004 @ 1:54 PM For those who don't understand physics, explain Flux most people just know the Flux Capacitor from "Back to the Future"
mawcs	Date: January 27, 2004 @ 2:03 PM m-w.com Main Entry: 2flux Function: verb transitive senses 1 : to cause to become fluid 2 : to treat with a flux intransitive senses : to become fluid : FUSE" id="82983">from m-w.com Main Entry: 2flux Function: verb transitive senses 1 : to cause to become fluid 2 : to treat with a flux intransitive senses : to become fluid : FUSE
Philos60	Date: January 28, 2004 @ 3:14 AM Your creativity is amazing!
Philos60	Date: January 28, 2004 @ 3:17 AM flux: fl{A}ks/ noun 1 [U] continuous movement and change: Our society is in a state of flux. 2 [C,usually sing,U] (technical) a flow; an act of flowing: a flux of neutrons * magnetic flux
Little-Nemo	Date: January 28, 2004 @ 4:03 AM Definition: [n] in constant change; "his opinions are in flux" [n] (physics) the number of flux changes per unit area [n] a flow or discharge [n] the lines of force surrounding a permanent magnet or a moving charged particle [n] excessive discharge of liquid from a cavity or organ (as in watery diarrhea) [n] a substance added to molten metals to bond with impurities that can then be readily removed [n] the rate of flow of energy or particles across a given surface [v] mix together different elements; "The colors blend well"; "fuse the clutter of detail into a rich narrative"--A. Schlesinger [v] become liquid or fluid; of a solid substance, when heated; "the frozen fat liquefied" [v] move or progress freely as if in a stream; "The crowd flowed out of the stadium" Synonyms: blend, coalesce, combine, commingle, conflate, flow, flux density, fluxion, fuse, immix, liquefy, liquify, magnetic field, magnetic flux, meld, merge, mix See Also: absorb, accrete, admix, alloy, blend in, change, change integrity, chemical, cockle, compactness, concentration, condense, conjugate, denseness, density, distil, distill, field, field of force, flow, flowing, force field, magnetosphere, melt, mix in, mix up, move, neutron flux, pathology, radiant flux, rate, riffle, ripple, ruffle, sluice, solar magnetic field, soldering flux, stump, syncretise, syncretize, thaw, transpirate, transpire undulate, unfreeze, unthaw The principles of surface flux physics: theory, practice and description of the ECPACK library http://www.met.wau.nl/projects/jep/report/ecromp/ Magnetic Flux http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/MagneticFlux.html Physics of Magnetic Flux Ropes http://www-ssc.igpp.ucla.edu/ssc/textbook/rope1.html flux, magnetic, Physics flux, magnetic, in physics, term used to describe the total amount of magnetic field in a given region. The term flux was chosen because the power of a magnet seems to "flow" out of the magnet at one pole and return at the other pole in a circulating pattern, as suggested by the patterns formed by iron filings sprinkled on a paper placed over a magnet or a conductor carrying an electric current. These patterns are called lines of induction. Although there is no actual physical flow, the lines of induction suggest the correct mathematical description of magnetism in terms of a field of force. The lines of induction originate on the north pole of the magnet and end on the south pole; their direction at any point is the direction of the magnetic field, and their density (the number of lines passing through a unit area) gives the strength of the field. Near the poles where the lines converge, the field and the force it produces are large; away from the poles where the lines diverge, the field and force are progressively weaker.
Little-Nemo	Date: January 28, 2004 @ 4:17 AM Unfortunately the music industry has for too long led people and aritsts to believe that we need to act or behave in a way that is suitable to it's needs. For too long people have believed this. With the advent of the internet we have been freed from the opressive notions that are created by the spin meisters. It is possible now to create a cd with out the industry. With the stroke of your computer you can record quality music, create the artwork for the cover and upload it all to a site that offers the creation and distribution of your art for a mere fee that far outbids the weight and oppressiveness of the system that finds itself in it's death throws. So now they blame the failing industry on simple people who share music and call it piracy when for years they constantly stole, manipulated and bought the art right out of the hands of the people who created it. Or worse took the artist and molded talented, creative people into commercial money making automotons. The industry is not in flux. The industry is dieing and like a Phoenix in it's place is rising a new and better way to do it. Why do you think it fights so dreadfully hard to hold on to what power it has left and to take away the power that the artist has found to cut out the proverbial Middleman. The artist no longer needs the industry to dictate to us how and what we write or create. With every death throw of the old comes the maliable new Music Indiestry. The artist is once again finding that we can control what is ours. As the artist posts their tunes on the web suddenly the audience becomes world wide and all from the comfort of our homes. Perhaps flux is the wrong term to use. I see it more as out with the old and in with the new. As I said like a Phoenix that burns in order to be born again.
Philos60	Date: January 28, 2004 @ 8:43 AM Hey Little-Nemo! You said: "The industry is not in flux." But the *MUSIC WORLD* is in flux, due to the potential of the *InterNet*. By the way, your comments and objections are enlightening & conclusive!
mawcs	Date: January 28, 2004 @ 11:13 AM @Little-Nemo interesting insights. Thanks for your contribution. However, I disagree, I believe that the "Industry" will always exist in some form or another. I simply believe that the internet will increase the variety and creativity of music on the market as well as empowering the artists. check out: http://www.jdevinc.com/central/stream/ http://www.magnatune.com/ http://www.gokartrecords.com/index.php (and Peter Gabriel's new gig, not sure where the site is) Above are new versions of the industry empowering artsist, improving creative material in the market and allowing more variety.
dilvie	Date: January 28, 2004 @ 7:51 PM this as an alternative to the music industry. Is the world of corporate-driven consumerism so powerful that the ideas of free sharing (as opposed to copyright enforcement) and artist patronage are completely foreign to us? - Eric" id="83293">Nobody seems to have mentioned this as an alternative to the music industry. Is the world of corporate-driven consumerism so powerful that the ideas of free sharing (as opposed to copyright enforcement) and artist patronage are completely foreign to us? - Eric

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