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princess-angry	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 2:11 PM who knows of the best file share program otu there.... I have tried xolox, morpeous,inesh, kazaa, and audio galaxy.. and none of them seem to work fine and I heard winmx uses too many resources and don't work on windows ME correctly. what are all your suggestions and i t can't have no spyware of 3rd party ads and/ or software... thanx yall...
smelv1n	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 3:23 PM i like audio galaxy best, the simplicity is nice and good. and simple.
princess-angry	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 3:36 PM kernmel32.dll and the message would not go away... and it locked up my pc and installed bonzibuddy.... I hated it... I really don't want it...." id="11122">but all it did on ym system is cause an error in kernmel32.dll and the message would not go away... and it locked up my pc and installed bonzibuddy.... I hated it... I really don't want it....
princess-angry	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 3:36 PM kernel32.dll" id="11123">I mean kernel32.dll
Svensta	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 4:23 PM www.kazaalite.com They ripped the ad-n-spy ware from it and it runs nice. If you run adaware on your box THAT could be why the REGULAR version of AG is so loused up. Try and hacked one! I agree with the Smelvinator. They are beginning to block LOTS of tracks, but for just music, there's no better source than AG." id="11126">CDC you might like to pick up the 'fixed' AG they have at www.kazaalite.com They ripped the ad-n-spy ware from it and it runs nice. If you run adaware on your box THAT could be why the REGULAR version of AG is so loused up. Try and hacked one! I agree with the Smelvinator. They are beginning to block LOTS of tracks, but for just music, there's no better source than AG.
smelv1n	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 4:24 PM blah, that sucks the one i got is an old clean version, didn't install anything, and causes 0 problems..
Your-Mom	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 4:32 PM I think WinMX is by far the best. Search results always giving me huge amounts of matches. And they actually download. I had lots of problems with Morpheus downloading tracks.
princess-angry	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 5:11 PM I know I'll have to do some more research..... I just can't get how they do this... dies the riaa secretly pay them to do that?? I think thier's something pu with that and I'll get to the bottom of it!!!
princess-angry	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 5:12 PM I'll chew MC out for doiung that to thier latest version and decrease thier rating at my site.... they'll see... It's sercret shoppers liek me they'll have to watch out for!!!!
milladrive	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 5:39 PM I wonder why WinMX has been virtually worthless lately for me and several other people I know. For the last several weeks, we've been getting next to no results for anything. Any ideas?
princess-angry	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 6:05 PM I dunno milla.... I's hard even to find a good file share prog.. let alone decent mp3's... I wanna create my own but I don't have servers and script to do it!!!
milladrive	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 6:19 PM Well, Audiogalaxy was awesome for musical content. The best ever. As of this evening, however, it is 100% filtered. No more AG.
Cryxan	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 6:31 PM Excuse me while I go crawl into the corner. AudioGalaxy, thank you for 21 GB of music.
Cryxan	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 6:52 PM Make that 28 GB. I forgot to count my other account.
smelv1n	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 7:45 PM what's this about filtering? where did you hear this?
pog	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 9:05 PM Have you got the latest version of winmx ? I upgraded to the latest version ermm... 3.2 i think and apart from the part where it doesn't work on a fresh install untill you've re-booted, it works great.
pog	Date: June 17, 2002 @ 9:55 PM and it does work on ME...
draugluin	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:48 AM yea bearshare is cool ^_^
backmann	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:56 AM Now that WinMX is (kind of) a decentralised system, its connections are not as stable as they used to be. You may have to disconnect and connect again to find matches to your queries. However, now it's the best file-sharing program. Stable and fast. In the future, many Gnutella clients will be fighting for that title though.
RyanS	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 9:27 AM this keeps up and I'm gonna have to shell out a load of money for broadband! All the Gnutella clients suck on dialup! Just as long as WinMX stays up and running, I'll be happy in the mean time
draugluin	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 10:30 AM WinMX has sucked from the beginning when it started and the only files that were on it was mp3's and picture files cause all the users were newbies with dial-ups...NO OFFENSE RYAN!!!!! But now, it's evolved a bit, and got broadband users and what not on there....and well...yeaaaaa It still blows. Like Dee Said limewire (good for games) and bearshare(good for lots) are probably the best choices for the future. WinMX is just...too newbieish... And there is always Kazaa, and your AdAware to back track the install and get rid of the spyware.
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 10:32 AM anyone heard of widesource ???
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 10:37 AM To hear Bearshare and AG mentioned in the same sentence makes me cringe. The gnutella network has yet to come anywhere close to AG's musical content. Ever try to find a recording from the turn of the century on gnutella? Ever try to find music from foreign countries? They don't compare. ...yet. Now that AG's dead, it'll be interesting to see where the exodus leads. Unfortunately, as has been said, gnutella has yet to have someone design the "perfect" client app." id="11187">I am firmly convinced that WinMX blows. It used to be decent. In fact, I got mucho amounts of video from it at one time. For the last coupla months -- and I think it's due to Nap filters -- it's been all but useless, no matter what version I use (2.6, 3.1, or 3.2). A search for "beatles" gets 1 (count'em, 1) hit. A second search gets 0. A third search gets 3. A search for "spears" gets 2 hits, one of which is a mislabelled Metallica song. A second search gets 21 (ooh) hits. A third search comes back with 8. ..oh wait, 9 (3 minutes later). And even tho I've always like the gui (my favorite since Napster), the 3.2 version is somewhat buggy and chokes my system. Maybe someone can explain how it works for them. Looks like for me it's gonna be FastTrack for now (my advice: KaZaA Lite; it comes with no spyware). To hear Bearshare and AG mentioned in the same sentence makes me cringe. The gnutella network has yet to come anywhere close to AG's musical content. Ever try to find a recording from the turn of the century on gnutella? Ever try to find music from foreign countries? They don't compare. ...yet. Now that AG's dead, it'll be interesting to see where the exodus leads. Unfortunately, as has been said, gnutella has yet to have someone design the "perfect" client app.
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 10:57 AM Milla, what server are you connecting to on winmx ?? It looks like theres 6 or 7 different servers. Maybe that makes a difference. Also, I don't use the open nap stuff either... that bites. Another thing with winmx is the search function, I'll admit is glitchy. It works betterer if you wait a good minute or 2 before and after searches, or it gets naff all results. Gnucleus is still one of the best gnutella clients I've found, but I havn't tried it lately.
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 11:35 AM betterer. hehe, poggish. Usually, it connects me to, like, 5 servers simultaneously. And yes, I agree about waiting between searches. That's always intrigued me. I haven't connected to any manually. Never had to before. It's just that the search results, all of a sudden a while back got really terrible. So bad that I can't even get any use from the app anymore. That's okay, tho, 'cause things seem to be pickin' up already in both FastTrack and gnutella. Gnucleus, huh. I think I had v1.51 but for some reason it's not still installed, so there must've been sumpm I didn't like about it. What version are they usin' now? Lamewire I don't like because it requires Java to run, so I usually connect to gnutella usin' Bearshare, which, I might add, has improved its app's stability recently. I'm about to look into this relatively new client called Qtraxmax, which seems to be gettin' some decent feedback.
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 11:37 AM http://pog.dmusic.net/pictures.php?detail=1&picid=1140 " id="11190">check it, bro http://pog.dmusic.net/pictures.php?detail=1&picid=1140
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 11:38 AM I did a beetles search
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 11:40 AM I just tried widesource, and it turns out to be a really wierd online community that shares it's bookmarks rofl
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 11:42 AM Then I just don't understand just wtf I'm doin' wrong. And why would this all of a sudden become an issue for me after ages of usage? Hm. Well, if you or someone could tell me how to get better use from WinMX, I'd surely appreciate it. I'm baffled.
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 11:44 AM Try changing the locality in settings - Im on the australia/new zealand one.
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 11:51 AM When I was connected to the net via a network, I had to change some stuff on winmx, but it was pretty easy.
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 11:55 AM I've had times where I clicked and nothing, then I clicked and heaps, so I guess it may be just another dodgy bit of code in the world...
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 11:55 AM well, i must admit that helped a little, but it still falls short of the mark for me. I have a feeling there may be another configuration setting I'm missin', but I've looked them over a million times. And it's not just me havin' this problem. Many of my friends are havin' the same thing. The fact, tho, that people are still dl'ing it and givin' it good feedback, along w/your comments, just tells me that there's sumpm goin' on on my end.
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 11:58 AM Maybe it likes some folks and dislikes others." id="11198">I can accept the "dodgy bit of code" theory. I've noticed that, too. Maybe it likes some folks and dislikes others.
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 11:58 AM The only other thing we can put it down to is maybe o.s. or even chipset compatability.
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 11:59 AM maybe it only likes AMD
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:00 PM os is what i was thinkin'. I'm usin' w98se. ..but lots of folks still are. That should be an issue. And chipset may be it, but why would it all of a sudden, version unchanged, stop workin' as I knew it? My chipset hasn't changed, and neither had the prog version.
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:00 PM AMD.. lol! That could be it!
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:01 PM correction... "that _shouldn't_ be an issue." ...I hate when I do that.
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:05 PM It's pretty darn odd, I'll say. I remember a week or so ago, my winmx3.1 was screwing up pretty much how you are describing. I completely uninstalled it, and installed 3.2 and it was fixed, so maybe 3.1 has left some nasties behind if you only updated it, (or it may not even work if you havn't got 3.2) Maybe that's the fix you need ?
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:06 PM maybe I said maybe too many times
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:09 PM Maybe. That'd probably be a good poggestion if it hadn't started happening in the middle of usin' 2.6, continued w/3.1, and now continues w/3.2. I have indeed even run a clean install after tediously wiping the crumbs clean. Still no good, tho.
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:12 PM heheh poggestion.. thats a good one How hard did you wipe ?
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:16 PM bloody. heh I really don't recall that well, but i'm sure I ran the 2 regi cleaners I have and deleted any ini files, if any. I dunno if that's not enuff, but it's always worked for everything else. ..Again, I
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:19 PM Lookin' at that screenshot again, I'm convinced it works for you and isn't workin' for me. Now, if I could only figure out the solution.
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:20 PM I use Ontracks fixit utilities for a.v. and it sometimes cleans a little too well, but I think the problems Ive had in the past have stemmed from running my HDD with direct memory access on. And running as a server speeds things up to the point of crashing just nicely.
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:20 PM ...and what's widesource? ..'cause I'm too lazy to go to google.
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:23 PM Now I think about it, I don't recall doing any cleaning. I did it in this order... uninstalled 3.1, rebooted, installed 3.2, rebooted, tested with firewalls off, rebooted, tested with firewalls on. Welcome to microsoft reboot.
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:27 PM lol
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:28 PM widesource is strange, but basically all of the users on it's servers can send each other files, and automatically access the programs extensive collection of url's (which it adds your bookmarks to). Sort of a meta-bookmark system, i guess.
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:29 PM okay, i'll go to google. ..and I'm gonna keep screwin' w/WinMX when I get the chance. You're proof that it's still functioning. Thanx.
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:30 PM ahh. Seems interesting, I guess.
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:31 PM anytime, man I think your local servers might be getting dos attacked from sony or some other anti p2p group.
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:32 PM widesource look like it'd be good for finding mp3 urls
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:35 PM i'll definitely check it out. ..can never have too many sources.
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:36 PM And so the dmusic members embarked upon a journey into finding the next peer to peer platform, to replace the one that no longer makes the gods happy. OMG I gotta have a rest from diablo !
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 12:38 PM haahaahaahah
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 1:25 PM This doesn't look like it'll help much, but it may make ya feel better to know how un-alone you really are on this one.
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 1:25 PM http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_ugroup=alt.music.mp3.winmx " id="11226">http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_ugroup=alt.music.mp3.winmx
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 1:29 PM http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&group=alt.musi c.mp3.winmx&selm=7c6dca6c.0206172106.1225b16%40posting.google.com " id="11227">OH !!! OH WAIT http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&group=alt.musi c.mp3.winmx&selm=7c6dca6c.0206172106.1225b16%40posting.google.com
pog	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 1:44 PM It would appear that some of the mirrors are still 3.1 check your version within the program.
milladrive	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 2:37 PM thanx for that. yup, 3.2 all around. Also hogs up system resources. I'm somewhat disappointed 'cause I know this isn't how it should be acting, yet there seems to be little that can be done.
princess-angry	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 7:20 PM download.com last year) and then i hear the new version has RIAA tracking in it for IFPI numbers.... I heard that 2 months ago from a music site liek this one... and I just need the cleanest app and the fast4est w downloads and it'll let me surf the net while d/l ing.... xolox don't and the new version of AG won't .... AG only causes errors and hogs RC's...... Imesh is dead and morpeus PE don't work at all and 1.9 I wanna avoid at all costs!!! thanx anyway guys!!!!!!!! :love:" id="11248">wow all you have me so confused!!!!! which is the best on a dell with 128MB ram ,20GB HD apprrox 9.0GB free, windowsME,IE5.5 Msn vers. 7, and windows media player.... that's my specs.. now Ive tried winMX b4 and it would say it had a missing file ( I got it off download.com last year) and then i hear the new version has RIAA tracking in it for IFPI numbers.... I heard that 2 months ago from a music site liek this one... and I just need the cleanest app and the fast4est w downloads and it'll let me surf the net while d/l ing.... xolox don't and the new version of AG won't .... AG only causes errors and hogs RC's...... Imesh is dead and morpeus PE don't work at all and 1.9 I wanna avoid at all costs!!! thanx anyway guys!!!!!!!!
draugluin	Date: June 18, 2002 @ 10:55 PM WinMX = sucks...-coughs- get Kazaa and AdAware...thats the best combo, while the install for kazaa is still up after it has finalized run adaware, then finish up the kazaa install no spyware and no ads.
backmann	Date: June 19, 2002 @ 12:07 AM Milla: I'm using WinMX 3.2 with an AMD K6-II. Location: South America. Connected to the default server (no OpenNap added). Works fine, always has.
pog	Date: June 19, 2002 @ 2:37 AM I fell asleep at the keys again. I'm gonna try & get to the bottom of this.
pog	Date: June 19, 2002 @ 2:56 AM http://homepage.ntlworld.com/j.buchanan/winmx/blocked.html Maybe it's yer isp. " id="11310">This looks like a possiblilty... http://homepage.ntlworld.com/j.buchanan/winmx/blocked.html Maybe it's yer isp.
RyanS	Date: June 19, 2002 @ 4:47 AM That's what I was gonna say.. it's possible that ISP has certain ports disabled. I have never had any problems using WinMX since it switched to it's own peer network. One thing that would make the network even better if it had the ability to recurse folders. Say you have a bunch of full-lengh albums in their own folders, like most of us do, they aren't shared unless you specify to share them, even if they're in your share folder. I've raised this topic in the past when I was testing WinMX 3 Beta, and never got any response back.. and obviously it hasn't been implemented...
milladrive	Date: June 19, 2002 @ 10:12 AM Okay, you guys ruule. And poggy, you 0wn me. Seems WinMX is now incompatible w/ZoneAlarm AND my isp, both to certain extents. TCP connections need to be accepted on a port different from 6699, so changing it to listen to #16699 works wonders. Of course, turning off the firewall eliminates this problem, too, but I see this as my isp's port overload, so changing it works fine. UDP packets, however, fail on every port w/the ZA running. They must be turned off altogether for me to leave the ZA on. Firewall is now up, and WinMX works great again. Thank you, and much obliged.
mtbatol	Date: June 19, 2002 @ 12:52 PM kazaa lite definately
pog	Date: June 19, 2002 @ 2:23 PM That's wicked you got it sussed out milla, though I don't think I Own yoo - I've always considered us to be fairly similar as far as ownership goes, (i.e. both being modest, but fantastic) I just had more time on my hands And I need to say right here kazaa bites. That programs been plagued by spyware, dodgy updates and ppl who can't encode for way too long. And to all you other non-believers, I wanna say if winmx is for newbies, how come I just connected to 3 open-nap servers and the winmx servers at the same time, and the napster servers alone gave me access to 4 million extra files ? So if newbies use the easier and more effective way, call me what you want, cos kablaa or morphene are not my first choices of p2p. They are gonna die the same miserable death that napster did. In fact I'd go so far as to say I'd rather use limewire with it's poxy java updates before i'd consider those vultures again.
princess-angry	Date: June 19, 2002 @ 7:11 PM thanx again but I'll see about ratings..... geez it's hard getting a P2P let alone mp3!!!! dang!!!!
milladrive	Date: June 19, 2002 @ 7:42 PM http://doa2.host.sk/index2.htm I do agree about many people there not knowin' how to make an mp3 to save their life." id="11362">My advice for hookin' up to the FastTrack network is to use KaZaA Lite. It's the full KaZaA without the ad banners and the scumware. Definitely preferable to FastTrack much more than Limewire is to gnutella. http://doa2.host.sk/index2.htm I do agree about many people there not knowin' how to make an mp3 to save their life.
princess-angry	Date: June 19, 2002 @ 7:53 PM thanx milla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
milladrive	Date: June 19, 2002 @ 7:55 PM
princess-angry	Date: June 19, 2002 @ 7:57 PM cool.
backmann	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 12:03 AM milla: make a secondary connection and disable your tcp connections from it.
pog	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 1:56 AM winmx lets you download any file type you can even get movies off opennap at the same time. btw I'm talking about what works best on dial-up, and as far as stability, power, and speed go. winmx is the best i've seen yet.
pog	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 7:37 AM errm whats yer processor speed ??
pog	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 7:37 AM cos you may have too many apps running in the background.
pog	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 8:34 AM http://www.slyck.com/ More proof that winmx is worth using. This is discerning, actually... I can see winmx getting whopped soon 2 if any more ppl use it :-( So on that note... nobody else should really d/load it - it's a piece of :poo: that only newbies use. :O " id="11416">http://www.slyck.com/ More proof that winmx is worth using. This is discerning, actually... I can see winmx getting whopped soon 2 if any more ppl use it So on that note... nobody else should really d/load it - it's a piece of that only newbies use.
pog	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 8:35 AM Anyone tried blubster yet ??
pog	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 8:38 AM The next Filetopia release looks pretty cool 2... in a few dayz
princess-angry	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 11:05 AM what's the best site for software reivews???
princess-angry	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 11:47 AM thanx guys for all the help here! I appreciate it and I will look into more I'll have to go by ratings too..... so i't more at a glance.... but you guys have uncovered stuff that isn't at the ratings pages!!! thank you!!
milladrive	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 12:05 PM And I've got Blubster on my rig. I like the gui, but content is still very much lacking, and I'm not too crazy about the length of time it takes to make my shared files library. I have little patience to wait a day for all my songs to be logged. :shrug:" id="11450">Got it worked out, backy, and that's exactly what it took. Thanx. Dee, sometimes it just takes a little effort, like what I just went thru. It wasn't workin' right and now it is. I agree that BearShare is probably the best of the gnutella clients out there right now, but A) that doesn't say much, and B) the gnutella network doesn't yet have as much content as OpenNap/WMX. Hopefully, one day it will but not quite yet. Right now, the thought is music, since no other content will be changing all that much in the coming days. If we remember, Audiogalaxy, the hands-down all-time champion for musical content, connection speed, stability, search ease, and resuming broken dl's just took a shit the other day. The other 3 major networks will be seein' plenty of musical fallout from the resulting exodus. Which one will get the most? ..we can only wait and see. hehe, pog. "June 20, 2002 @ 6:34 AM" ...interesting thought. And I've got Blubster on my rig. I like the gui, but content is still very much lacking, and I'm not too crazy about the length of time it takes to make my shared files library. I have little patience to wait a day for all my songs to be logged.
princess-angry	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 12:09 PM oh well...
milladrive	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 12:10 PM "oh well..." what?
princess-angry	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 12:13 PM I am still confu-sed about the best P2P heck everyone cna argue for months!! oh well... I'll try to narrow it down... or maybye you can help milla....
milladrive	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 12:34 PM Well, we can only try our best to help. The best advice I can give you right now is to look over the suggestions that are being made here and try the apps out for yourself. If you don't like a particular program, you can always get rid of it.
princess-angry	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 12:38 PM thanx... will do....
Your-Mom	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 5:54 PM " id="11476">I am running WinMx 3.2 and I have not had any problems with it. Actually the search glitch is a little weird sometimes. Sometimes you just have to press search again for it to find more content. If you don't find what you are looking for, just press search again and it usually finds it. Sometimes I will get a couple results from my search, but then I will press search again and it will list a couple thousand. Strange! But I can always find what I am looking for. I have downloaded full programs and numerous movies from WinMx also. I just typed in "Spiderman" and got 1,045 results.
princess-angry	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 8:47 PM well that's only with big current stuf... try typing in "this is how we party remix" or "where have all the cowboys gone (sylscreen dream mix)" those are rare and took me half an hour to get one result for "this is..." and 2 for "where~1..." and MC now wont pull up rare stuff no more....
princess-angry	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 8:48 PM I do mean "sylkscreen dream mix".... sorry!!!
milladrive	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 8:55 PM CDC, your best bet for searches is to keep it as narrow and concise and you possibly can. One key word from the artist's name and one or 2 key words from the title should be all you type in to the search. For instance, "cole cowboys mix" will probably yield many more results than if you type the whole thing out. Keep the search simple. This will give you many more hits.
princess-angry	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 10:08 PM thanx mill!!!! I'll try......
princess-angry	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 10:20 PM why I thank you all for your help... I'll try winmx or another gnu-client... If one has the least bit of SW on it it's toast!!! thanks yall and I will make my desicion by 2 weeks.... I apprecaite very much, all the help and tips.......
princess-angry	Date: June 20, 2002 @ 10:21 PM hardware.dmusic.com aiwa_xp-mp3c/ just saw the pic of it on google while searching for aiwa.... neat!!!" id="11503">wow it now has a 2nd page!!! cool! hardware.dmusic.com aiwa_xp-mp3c/ just saw the pic of it on google while searching for aiwa.... neat!!!
weaponzero	Date: June 21, 2002 @ 4:58 PM songspy still owns your bones

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