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Does the "Mob" Control The Industry?

robin101	Date: November 11, 2003 @ 11:26 PM You think the RIAA is bad? They're not the half of it.
leflaw	Date: November 12, 2003 @ 1:33 AM whoa - lets hear it.........
robin101	Date: November 12, 2003 @ 5:03 AM OK then. Before I begin (and since the topic is a bit of a risk), let's ask ourselves' this: How does one come out of the clear blue, from a relatively small entertainment management company and become the president of the most prominant labels in the industry? Hmmm... let me think about this one before I answer. Let's see, I'm thinking about a pinky ring, a pretty singer for a x-wife, alledged ties to a crime family...then quits suddenly with 2 years to go on a contractual agreement at $10,000,000 a year salary, 2 body guards, a legal license to carry a weapon, bulletproof limo... let me think before I answer this one. I'll be back.
starseven	Date: November 12, 2003 @ 8:21 AM i don think so.. they used to back in the day... WAY back in the day.... before there was really radio ,jukeboxes were meduim forgetting your music to people... and they owned all the jukeboxes......
robin101	Date: November 12, 2003 @ 11:15 AM I have 52 albums to my name and I'm suggesting otherwise...understand?
starseven	Date: November 12, 2003 @ 11:18 AM um.. no.. i dont understand... but rock on with the 52 albums
robin101	Date: November 12, 2003 @ 11:45 AM The point is, I've seen it (and recently). Yes it exists to this day. It's just a bit quieter until the axe falls again...and it will fall again. This problem dwarfs the RIAA issue.
robin101	Date: November 12, 2003 @ 3:02 PM http://www.newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/features/n_8387/ Check it out.
robin101	Date: November 12, 2003 @ 8:18 PM Afraid to read this?
starseven	Date: November 12, 2003 @ 8:28 PM dude.. seriously... let this thread die.. it;s stupid... no one cares about the mob.. except old guys from new york.. who think they are in the supranoes or something.... .. fuck the mob. and fuck this thread
robin101	Date: November 12, 2003 @ 9:14 PM dude...don't you seriously wonder why it's so difficult to get into the business. It's not the RIAA that's the problem. I'm tryin to tell you something, but you know what: "You're breakin my heart, You're tearin it apart so fuck you". ...and you're right, fuck this thread. What you don't know, WILL hurt you. Hvae fun, you'll make it. You sound like a success ready to happen.
robin101	Date: November 13, 2003 @ 9:37 AM Alright Star Seven, I suppose it was wrong of me to lose my temper because of your remarks. However, I’ve posted this stuff for a good reason. I support independent artists. Everyone complains about the RIAA, but they are merely a puppet of a greater power within the record industry. It is not those of us within the industry who make it so difficult for the independents. It is truly a very perverse organization who have got their hands into everything. It is annoying enough for me to be aware of this, but to not consider what I’m trying to convey to you is even more frustrating. I have been extremely cautious in posts concerning this matter for obvious reasons. In time I will name names. I am simply attempting to set the tone for such information. In the meantime, try to be a bit more inquisitive. The topic affects all of us, industry or independent. Rick (Robin101)
Balrael	Date: November 13, 2003 @ 9:53 AM Dude, no offense but did you READ the article? TM is referred to as running his place LIKE a Mafia family, thumbing his nose in people's faces, and all that. And how he lost in a power struggle, due to lagging sales. There is zero mention of actual mob activity. What's next? A searing look at the Memphis Mob, detailing how Elvis was in the family too?
robin101	Date: November 13, 2003 @ 5:20 PM Ok, I'm done with the post. I hope you remember my comments at some point in time. All I can say about that is: "I told you so". I've dealt with these people...closely. I'm sorry you feel that way...real sorry. Rick
ChillinBuzz	Date: November 13, 2003 @ 5:36 PM Mr Mottola ran his post like the fat cats of the industries over here that inflict high prices and low service on people. You want sympathy for these people? I have a clogged drain they're welcome to have.
Jennae	Date: November 13, 2003 @ 5:53 PM screw what they think rick ... so waht if they do or don't believe you... matters not... EVERYONE is entitled to a voice..use it! don't be done. can't raise awareness being done I'm listening
Sweats	Date: November 13, 2003 @ 5:55 PM I think so, and Chuckie is getting there backing...
Veracohr	Date: November 13, 2003 @ 6:05 PM It's time to come clean here, folks. I run the industry.
Jennae	Date: November 13, 2003 @ 6:13 PM now that IS funny
leflaw	Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:35 PM Hey - the mob is still around.
Jennae	Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:55 PM indeed they are... very much so. some know this better than others... right rick
starseven	Date: November 13, 2003 @ 8:19 PM The mob today is NOTHNG liKE it was in the past.. today it is nothign more then a living cliche .. with no power.... a bunch of at old itlanian guys sitting aroudn talkign about "the good old days".... yes of course ther are still some peopel who say they are "in the mob" but those morons are not "the mob" that are just cartoon characters left over from the godfather and the sapranos... .nothign but a big fucking joke...anyways rick.. ther eis nothign to be scared of..if you were scared.. you woudl not have started this thread.. you want peopel to think you are somehow invilved with the mob.. or dealing with the mob.. whatever... go right ahead.... the way i look at it.... ther eis nothgin at all to fear... so i will say FUCK THE MOB FUCK THE MOB FUCK THE MOB.... the way i see it.. either 1. The mob today is nothing, just a bunch of fat fucks sitting in new york somewhere. or 2. they do exist... but are glad that i am posting this tellgin peopl they dont. the greatest trick the devil played was conviening the world he did not exists.,.... THERE IS NO MOB
furiousBall	Date: November 13, 2003 @ 8:22 PM the mob is still around i don't think they control the record industry they may however control portions of it ...that said they probably have their hands in every form of business there is
Jennae	Date: November 13, 2003 @ 8:43 PM well let's just say it's a very LARGE portion then
sinai	Date: November 13, 2003 @ 9:16 PM always knew my calling in life was gonna be rumrunning
robin101	Date: November 13, 2003 @ 11:37 PM Your correct, they are within the industry...just more quiet and slicker these days. I've made a lot of albums. I didn't get to produce them by luck. I'm not part of these people, but let's just say that the record industry is a very small world onto it's own. I speak out now because I personally could give a shit less. Besides, I'm managing to make records anyway, without their assistance. This is also why I support independent artists. You don't need to deal with the scum. You are far better off.
ronnie71	Date: November 14, 2003 @ 2:17 AM yes better off indeed...
ChillinBuzz	Date: November 14, 2003 @ 2:42 AM Indie music will always rule. Period. But dude, lets hear more of your exploits with the industry Rick (dont keep them in private convos ) - after all, its to do with music and i love a good read on how things go on behind the scenes, every encounter, episode, scrape and studio session always seemed different to me
johnnygnote	Date: November 14, 2003 @ 5:08 AM OK first of all the mob as we knew it is jsut an old tale told in movies about Al Capone and Goodfellas, but there is a whole new ball of wax on the scene. Gangsta is jsut another word for the old cliche Gangster and if you think it's no problem then your head is in the sand. The "Syndicate" is no loinger a bunch of old guys from Italy and the Bronx and Chicago in double breated suits. It is most definetlya problem we as musicians hope we never have to deal with but it does exist. It's now a much more multi faceted and multi racial thing. Crime exists in the music buisness (DUH) Drugs Sex and Rock and Roll. WHo Controls the Drugs???? Who controls the SEX??? Who controls the Rock and Roll??? Do you have to ask twicw? By the way Robin 101 what albums are you talking about? I'll go to your site and check your bio. Just curious. Back to crime in the music industry. It affects us all and it is most definetly a problem
Jennae	Date: November 14, 2003 @ 6:01 AM http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDMISS70311140556492632&sql=Brsua6j3871w0 I've spent some time talking to robin101 I'd listen personally... he's a real nice guy
TameasDust	Date: November 14, 2003 @ 7:44 AM of course what do you do to get them out ??? thanks Robin for making us think
robin101	Date: November 14, 2003 @ 10:17 AM Yes, my albums are listed at "allmusic.com". Jennae has posted the link. Just enter: "Rick Iantosca" in the space. 2nd, TameasDust, I get them out because I'm fortunate enough to have built a substantial track record (54 albums to date). I just avoid the "circle" when dealing with the labels. What ever happens with these records (payola or whatever), has nothing to do with me. 3rd, (johnnygnote): "The "Syndicate" is no loinger a bunch of old guys from Italy and the Bronx and Chicago in double breated suits." ----- YES, they still are all around, just behind the scenes...and yes, it is just like the movies. By the way, the TM article (that I posted as link), is about as clear as it's gonna get. You just have to read between the lines. I appreciate the more positive feed back on this post. Thanks to all. I've already dealt with the FBI at my home for a run-in with one of these idiots. I was threatened, but didn't wimp out (this was a rather recent event). Again, the mob controls the industry, payola still exists (as do threats at times). The "God-Father" mentality absolutely still exists. I know, I've seen it. Lastly, I intend to get VERY specific. I'm just testing the waters first. When these people become angry, they let you know about it. The only reason why I am not afraid (and simply cautious), is because if anyone were to get to me, I have already set up a revenge system (which is in place). You can call that "premeditated". I call it: a swift and severe "offence", as a "defence". Just because younger type individuals handle the day to day business affairs, does not mean that the "Old Italian" guys in the silk suits are not running the show - just like the movies. Read my discography when you get a chance (at: allmusic.com). With these credits, why would I make something like this up? I am not. I'm simply attempting to make you aware of the "insides" of the record industry. You deserve to become aware.
furiousBall	Date: November 14, 2003 @ 1:32 PM let's hear the exploits we've heard about your discography in just about every post you've done (and I believe you did all this stuff)...now let me hear the goods payola definitely still exists, whether it involves the mob or not. limp bizcuit got caught on there way up in the late 90s by paying some radio station five grand to play something from the Three Dollar Bill Y'all album (no clue if the mob was involved or not). no offense intended whatsoever on my discography comment, let's hear the meat and potatoes pretty please with sugar on top...i don't mean put sugar on the meat and potatoes...well, you know what i mean
Psipher	Date: November 14, 2003 @ 2:06 PM haha.. @ vandaman! things to do in denver when ur dead springs to mind "I AM GODZILLA YOU ARE TOKYO!" hehe
robin101	Date: November 14, 2003 @ 5:54 PM Cool...I just saw these posts. I've got a session to do in 5 minutes. When I return, I have a good story for you (with all of the "meat and potatoes"). By the way vandaman, I understand "no offense...". I believe you. You (plural), should be aware that the only reason I post the credit thing is NOT for the purpose od "bragging". I sincerely want you to be aware of who I am in the industry in order that I can assist you (if you want it). That is my sole reason for being on dmusic to begin with. It's true. Rick
BenRebel	Date: December 9, 2003 @ 2:36 PM Hey Robin101 I was going to ask you if you wre around for the "house of music" days or there other little spot on Main st. (you know what I'm talking about) but I checked the link so I know you had to have been there..
rapidhopeloss	Date: December 18, 2003 @ 1:27 PM payola definitely exists, i know them personally http://payola.dmusic.com/
robin101	Date: December 18, 2003 @ 1:38 PM Thank You, rapidhopeloss. So do I. Rick
robin101	Date: December 18, 2003 @ 2:07 PM ...and yes BenRebel, of course I was there in thoses days (and I know what you're talking about). I was going to actually start speaking up about the "goings on" within the industry. Unfortunately (if you read the earliar posts), you'll find that some people open their mouths before they open their ears. You know, what they don't know, will hurt them...but F* 'em if they don't get it. Like starseven posted: "THERE IS NO MOB"....my ass their is no mob. One day, he'll think back on this and say: "uh oh", he was correct. And yes starseven, it is you alone who had ended this thread. I'm here to assist. You are either way too young & immature, or just an idiot. Consequently, if admin gets you off the posts, I'll continue. But as long as your around with that attitude let me sing you this little thing (from Harry Nielson): You're breakin' my heart You're tearin apart So F* you Thank You Vedy Much
Jennae	Date: December 18, 2003 @ 2:07 PM um.. not payola the band dear Payola the "give me 75,000 to get your music heard, and so I can afford my drug habits and hoes." Funny thing is, unfortunately these crooked bastards have paid off the people in charge of busting this type of Bull so it's a continuous circle that constantly receive a blind eye.... It's not about talent or skills... it's about how much you can shuffle under the "Record Label" Table. :rollseye: It's a shitty system they have sorted and worked out quite disgustingly well So why is it hard to be an independent artist?? well for one... you don't have a "Label Table" to shuffle your bribe under to get charted... (hence limp bizcuit's issue) shall we get on with the real dirt here?? Oh.....and you better be nice to Rick... or he'll threatend your mothers life j/k ... kinda
Jennae	Date: December 18, 2003 @ 2:26 PM hey Rick... "get doe's fuckin' burds off my record!"
robin101	Date: December 18, 2003 @ 2:40 PM Dat's what the man said!
Jennae	Date: December 18, 2003 @ 3:50 PM "Cherish" would have never been the same without dem burds glad you kept it YOUR way

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