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robdogg16	Date: February 10, 2004 @ 12:53 AM I was watching the Grammy's last night when I hear about whatsthedownload.com by some old guy begging for people to stop the piracy and start buying legit or at least use the legal online downloading. To my disgust, I fing napster and some other websites offering DLing of songs for a "low" .99 a track. Making a DL come out about $10 - $12. I think that is bull $#!t, i'd rather spend an extra 2 bucks and get a legit album or DL on free P2P networks. I DL music online and will continue to until either MP3 format is somehow non-existatant or every P2P software is shut down. But that is not what this thread is truely about, I just felt the need to vent about that disturbing website and plee to get us to stop the piracy. I looked about the forums on whatsthedownload.com and noticed there was not 1 pro person about stopping the DLing unless they seem to be an employee of the RIAA. Somehow through all those threads I found myself here! I know many bands in the market that are trying to get Labels to sign them but from what I read Labels are really stealing the money from the artists. The weird thing is that all every band ever wants is to get signed. I know of a band right now that is suppose to be metting with Geffen records to supposably "work out a deal". Now this site does nothing but state do not buy or sign with a big list of RIAA officials. If this is the case, what should a band really do to become what they want, which is rich, famous and enjoy the music career that is so hyped up to be in the industry. Is it possible to not be signed with a major record company and still make it big in the business? That is be heard on the radio, TV, concerts, MTV, VH1 and everything else that makes the wanna be music career. I do not play in a band but I find myself wanting to help those in bands make something of themselves, even if it just making a living. I make somewhat of a significant income and would like to start to invest money into underground and independent bands. I see the breakaway of major labels very near because most fans don't want to be forced to buy CD's, or not able to share a song with a friend on their very own personal listening devices, or be subject to these corporate rich stiffs. So what does one do who wants to make it big without the "help" of record labels? Shall we start to see a new era of record labels that don't take bands and listeners for granted and if we do, how can one get started both as a band and a person intersted in helping in the new era of record labels? I would like to know how it can be done, and how I might be able to help.
mudslidemary	Date: February 10, 2004 @ 1:01 AM Grass Roots thats all it takes and if a musician is in it for just the fame and fortune they are in the wrong line of work as music is about emotion not
robdogg16	Date: February 10, 2004 @ 1:06 AM I agree it's not totally for the money but lets agree for many it is. Now back to the question please!
TameasDust	Date: February 10, 2004 @ 2:15 AM question??? could you quote it ... most people won't read all that post ... short and simple as in ... can you make it big without a label or something along that line
CrescentShadow	Date: February 10, 2004 @ 6:47 AM and maybe then music will be popular for quality, not the big record labels shoving it in MTVs face and whatever is on mtv is popular for that week.
mawcs	Date: February 10, 2004 @ 3:17 PM duck, green people incoming.
MickeyBreezy	Date: February 10, 2004 @ 3:55 PM i agree w/ crescentshadow, if u could make it big w/out big labels then we wouldnt have trl crap runnin the mainstream we would have actual good muzik. its not always bout the benjamins mayne.
robdogg16	Date: February 10, 2004 @ 11:05 PM Wow, it's amazing how the topic goes off track so fast! Again in simple terms, Can a band make it big in the industry without being signed with an RIAA associated record label? Please take note the key term is make it BIG!
MickeyBreezy	Date: February 10, 2004 @ 11:27 PM yeah, u dont think errything u hear on the radio n c on tv far as popular muzik is concerned is in correlation w/ the riaa do u? there r some BIG name artists who hate the riaa. so yes its entirely possible. please take note making it BIG means makin the :money:
MickeyBreezy	Date: February 10, 2004 @ 11:28 PM err...
MickeyBreezy	Date: February 10, 2004 @ 11:29 PM i hate emotes w/ their unrelentless bastardness...cant u b a lil 4givin u sick fucks!
Distilled1	Date: February 11, 2004 @ 1:04 AM Didn't Iron Maiden do it? Depeche Mode? those were diffrent times but didn't they do everything on there own for the most part? I'm asking but I think they did maybe im misinformed and too
robdogg16	Date: February 11, 2004 @ 1:07 AM From what I see it seemed as though RIAA is associated with all the popular music. Can you name a few bands that are not?
0Hz	Date: February 11, 2004 @ 3:50 PM Can a band or artist make it big without signing ? at this moment I would say it would be very difficult, but more and more mainstream music fans are begining to look elswhere for their music ie the internet. What do they need to do ?, same as before, work hard at getting known, have a unique selling point, play out live and build a fanbase, interact with the fans, sell directly to them via the internet and get their music in independent record shops ( I know of one in the UK which has national coverage albeit sparse). Still leaves a massive gap though, there is no independent alternative. I was thinking the other day that perhaps someone like dmusic or soundclick could franchise their huge music libaries so you could have an international independent music store, DMusic shops all over the globe. Just a daydream though. As I see it now the future is online but for the present its still the existing music industry. As was said earlier in this thread if your in this for the bigtime forget it only a few will ever get there, most of the people have one thing in common, they love music.

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