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shinkaide	Date: March 12, 2004 @ 6:42 PM How does dmusic plan to compete with soundclick? Right now, they've got very attractive offers on their free account... c'mon dmusic! Do something!
Dexter	Date: March 12, 2004 @ 6:47 PM Yes - but do they have the attractive people so readily available here?
shinkaide	Date: March 12, 2004 @ 6:49 PM I think so... but I'm loyal to dmusic. So I want DMUSIC to be better.
Distilled1	Date: March 12, 2004 @ 8:51 PM soundclick sucks...we have been there since I got a computer damn its been at least 4 years never had any community and seems to me alot of artist are coming over to the "D" side I havent even looked at our page there in over a year supose I should:/
djfacemachine	Date: March 13, 2004 @ 12:15 AM dmusic is already better. and i'd be careful about complaining about that free account... i don't think you were around when the only account was the free account and i bet you don't want to hear how that whole story panned out trust me, the free accounters are making out pretty damn good. and remember, you're here for the awesome community! and besides, by rights dmusic isn't even obligated to have any sort of free ANYTHING!!! ...they're just nice like that
figfarmer	Date: March 13, 2004 @ 12:31 AM I think of them as two entirely different entities. Soundclick is a good place to store sound files; Dmusic is a good place to chat. It's like asking how the refrodgerator is going to compete with the television.
leflaw	Date: March 13, 2004 @ 12:36 AM "how the refridgerator is going to compete with the television?" COLDPLAY!
djfacemachine	Date: March 13, 2004 @ 12:41 AM i can't eat the stuff inside the TV you crazies.
shinkaide	Date: March 13, 2004 @ 1:35 AM Expandability.
johnnygnote	Date: March 13, 2004 @ 1:39 AM Lef Fig has a good point, I too have been on SC for over 4 years and never felt like anything was happening there. DM rules and there doensn't need to be any competition between OMS's they are thier own identitiies.
TameasDust	Date: March 13, 2004 @ 2:21 AM SoundHick is only for music ... it almost has no community ... and they seem to be a bunch of anal rententive assholes too ... yeah lots of forums but filled with BSP's (blantant self promotion) stuff no where to just chat with others ... no shoutboxes like there are here ... and they don't like to change ... they don't like complaints either ... they lock threads at a whim ... if they don't like the subject ... boom locked ... and soundhick has user sigs ... nascar ads all over the place ... when you go to a musician's site you have to listen to their featured song until the stop button loads ... sides DMusic is unique ... Soundhick is one of many just the same ...
TameasDust	Date: March 13, 2004 @ 2:24 AM also DMusic has more free stuff and the subscriber fee is 1/3 that of soundhick ...
shinkaide	Date: March 13, 2004 @ 3:34 AM thanks for enlightening me!
victorsskull	Date: March 13, 2004 @ 9:54 AM sound click is nice but they dont have shout boxes wich ruins the site. ya what tameasdust said
miriamgomezm...	Date: March 13, 2004 @ 2:07 PM I am in both Dmusic and Soundclick. For me, Soundclick is better in terms of storing mp3 files (more space, more tracks allowed), but somehow is more impersonal than Dmusic. Soundclick is a kind of sonic showcase only, whereas Dmusic is a true community. I visit my Soundclick page only once a day to see my stats. I try to check my pages (user and artist), as well as the Forum and Community sections, several times a day because I know something may have changed since the last time I was there: shoutboxes, forum, comments on this or that, etc..
Cryxan	Date: March 13, 2004 @ 7:49 PM Those of us who are here know that DM is better, but Soundclick attracts a lot of people. I frequent other forums just to see what sites artists talk about, and DM does not get mentioned often. SC is talked about a lot. A great many of the ex mp3.com artists moved to SC, I know this because I've read many posts like that. So, how do we attract more people?
pog	Date: March 13, 2004 @ 8:33 PM what we do is we get together a group of our best coders and hackers, and make a scene.... change SC so that it goes straight to dmusic, add about a million free mp3's links on every search engine like one for each artist... spam, the works.... and then we too will be known as capitalist bastards like mp3.com, and shortly after, die a horrible death at the hands of sony's best coders and hackers. No, I think the rate of new artists finding the place because thay want to is pretty good, isn't it ?
victorsskull	Date: March 13, 2004 @ 10:30 PM yes pog
Woof	Date: March 13, 2004 @ 11:20 PM It's the difference, I think, between what's popular, and what works. And so one has to ask, which they'd prefer... Remember, "Thighmasters" were really popular, at one time...
figfarmer	Date: March 14, 2004 @ 12:21 AM So if we get chicks in leotards.....
djfacemachine	Date: March 14, 2004 @ 10:41 AM i HATE leotards... but for dmusic, i guess i'd do it. as long as its a leopard print one.
chinx	Date: March 14, 2004 @ 12:18 PM i used to be in soundclick but i moved because it's got great starter pages and stuff but dmusic is really free and lets you do your own thing.
torndownunit	Date: March 14, 2004 @ 12:26 PM As others have said, I don't really compare this site to other mp3 sites. Mainly because that's all those other sites are...mp3 sites. This is a community site focused on more than just downloads. It's just a shame that more people don't know about it. I totally just stumbled onto this site by accident. I had no idea it existed. All that being said though, any one of these sites can learn something about good features that other sites have and implement them. There are some neat features are various sites.
dennytate	Date: March 14, 2004 @ 2:00 PM I think dmusic is a place that people pay attention more too. The artists on soundclick will find other artists that are interesting , but you have to go through a countdown that can be as big as 5,000 notches on the Soundclick site. Here on dmusic ( we the artists ), can speak with each other unlike at Soundclick. And we hear the Gossip of who is Good and whom is really good and we can make that end determination up for ourselves.
miriamgomezm...	Date: March 14, 2004 @ 2:34 PM The community is for me the best part of Dmusic. I agree with dennytate when he speaks about how difficult is to find someone at Soundclick. I suppose that is why I get much more plays here than there.
miriamgomezm...	Date: March 14, 2004 @ 2:34 PM The community is for me the best part of Dmusic. I agree with dennytate when he speaks about how difficult is to find someone at Soundclick. I suppose that is why I get much more plays here than there.
miriamgomezm...	Date: March 14, 2004 @ 2:36 PM Arghhh, I hate when the page reloads by itself. I am having problems with the connection these days. I suppose it is because there are too many people connected because of the elections. Sorry for the double posting!
robbydadrummer	Date: March 14, 2004 @ 5:57 PM I have a site on SoundClick also, but I don't care for them much at all. I really dislike sites that require everyone to register just to listen to the songs. Registering to leave comments, ratings, and such is fine, but not to simply listen. This turns away many would-be listeners and potential fans. My other main issues are the 10mb file limit that restricts those of us that have longer songs, and as stated the commuity over there is really bad. And they will definately lock-up any thread mentioning other music sites. That is completely biased. DMusic far excels for the community , not to mention there isn't a restriction as far as what bitrate mp3's you can upload!
shinkaide	Date: March 14, 2004 @ 7:20 PM More and more interesting!
robbydadrummer	Date: March 21, 2004 @ 4:36 PM Anyone else notice the influx of SC users posting here to try to get us to listen to their stuff over there? We need a recruiter!
sinai	Date: March 21, 2004 @ 4:59 PM Soundclick is some assy ass ass, almost as bad as the tracks ive had up on it for 2 years, i forget my username for that place its been so long since ive been there. Soundclick is Dmusic's bitch
sinai	Date: March 21, 2004 @ 6:21 PM see milla, that last statement would have had a great finish with a fisting emote, ya gotta get on the ball man!
StefanieNewport	Date: March 21, 2004 @ 10:53 PM DM is amazing and the community is its best secret. You guys are awesome~
kyodylee	Date: March 21, 2004 @ 11:30 PM " id="92314">sinai, ummm, you mean something like this
pog	Date: March 22, 2004 @ 1:13 AM Leopard leotard, egh...
Rodrica	Date: March 22, 2004 @ 4:39 AM I like Tame's first post on here the best so far!... And Soundclick isn't the worst site for the "retentive" thing either...there are a few other sites that make me cringe every time I visit them And the winner is... Maybe I'd better not... DM community is best
Svensta	Date: March 22, 2004 @ 8:04 AM I've noted some serious attitudes on other sites, but I suppose one can't avoid it all the time. I think this site has the edge, simply by virtue of the responses on this thread. This isn't some anonymous forum, it's a collection of vibrant, personable artists, and that makes this community its own feature, and one very few other places can counter. You ever notice how REMOVED most other forums are? Unless you are one of the long-timers, you are normally ignored, if not abused.
victorsskull	Date: March 22, 2004 @ 11:55 AM we are the worldwe are the children
robbydadrummer	Date: March 22, 2004 @ 4:39 PM lol Rodrica... at least your wouldn't get banned or the thread locked up for mentioning them.
Rodrica	Date: March 24, 2004 @ 6:02 AM I think this is what they call self-regulation robby (unaccustomed as I am...)
hickryh	Date: March 24, 2004 @ 3:26 PM I think I'm still on Soundclick somewhere. It's cool that there are sites like that to get music heard but pretty much any dumbass with a computer can put stuff on there. Ya gotta sift through even more crap than ya did before. I believe everyone should have a equal opportunity, but there has got to be quality control at some level. HH
kingo	Date: March 25, 2004 @ 6:58 PM Now that, hickryh, in my opinion, is utter hogwash. What kind of quality control are you talking about? If you mean these sites need some to verify that what's being posted isn't violating someone's copyright, then I agree. But if you mean, like it sounds to me, that someone should be deciding what stays or goes based on quality, then I think you're way off.
robbydadrummer	Date: March 25, 2004 @ 10:30 PM Self-regulation? Can I do that?? Hmmmm.. I might have to think about that one... Uhhh, no one will TAX me for that, will they? btw, Rodrica... nice vocals on your tunes.
TameasDust	Date: March 26, 2004 @ 1:44 AM can I tax you for that robby ... I NEED the money ... this savin pennies for a subscription is a bummer
Rodrica	Date: March 26, 2004 @ 4:26 AM @ Tame. And thanx Robby
robbydadrummer	Date: March 26, 2004 @ 2:41 PM @ Tame... After reading this again, sounds like "self-regulation" would mean I'm taxing myself... so no, I'm not paying taxes twice!!!
Wendyw00	Date: June 18, 2004 @ 2:06 AM Do you guys get paid for your music that is downloaded either here or on soundclicks?
dennytate	Date: June 18, 2004 @ 2:10 AM dmusic all the way baby
Wendyw00	Date: June 18, 2004 @ 2:18 AM Have you seen SquashRadio? Might work for some of you.
figfarmer	Date: June 18, 2004 @ 9:17 AM One may as well ask, "How does Ford plan to compete with Sanyo?" They are two different things SoundClick and DMusic. Together they mesh into a powerful tool for storing and sharing one's original music.
kenlinder	Date: June 21, 2004 @ 1:38 AM First, I have had other musicians contact me via soundclick. Next, yes there is no artists community there What they do have though is a really neat feature called "slurp". If your song is alread at another URL (already uploaded elsewhere) you can give them that URL and their uploaing software will grab it off of the web in a couple of minutes....instead of the gawdawful slow uploads on this web site. The only worse place I have ever seen for speed of uploads than dmusic was mp3.com (because they had too may users for the quality of their connection and servers). Then there is the drive space thing. I use every service I can for exposure, and I like to showcase a lot of my music, not an itty bitty sample. Soundclick lets me do that (as does mp3.com.au). There is no way I could upload 25 mp3s (of my 38 or so that are done) to this site. I also have a number of longer elecronic pieces that are 8 minutes long. Then we have the horribly slow loading pages on dmusic. I can wait (on some days) 5 minutes before the bottom half of the main page shows up on my screen. It makes me wonder (regularly) if the site has crashed. Oh yes....and it would be very nice if there were sub-genres, so that you could find the kind of music you are looking for. Right now "trance", "space" and "electronic classical" are all in the same big heap. It is very hard to get listeners when they have to wade through 900+ tracks, one at a time, to find ones that are the right kind of music. This site has the worse "genre" catigoriation that I have ever seen. But I really like many of the other qualities of Dmusic....if they would only make their site a bit easier to use. I don't even bother trying to find music to listen to on this site. I have no desire to wander through 850 tracks that are the wrong genre just to find the 50 that are the right one.
EgoIdentity	Date: June 21, 2004 @ 8:39 AM this site looks much nicer ans when i went to soundclick, it wasn't working.
MonnieB	Date: June 21, 2004 @ 12:12 PM Hi there! How's everyone... I was reading through this thread and I couldn't help reading what kenlinder was saying about dmusic... I've been here for some four months now and I've only had the opportunity to check one other site besides this one and I tell you, I'd choose this over any other every day of the week and twice on Sunday! Number one, you have to expect a slow upload time depending on your connection speed... That's just a given... and if you have an 8 minute song, well there ya go... It's like that with e-mail or anywhere you would upload such a large file... Number two as far as catagorization goes, I think poeple choose according to what they use to compose the song with... so if they did a rock song using a computer program, wouldn't that make the song electronic? I could be wrong here... I can't speak for them... I know I catagorize my songs correctly.... And also, there is an information button in the artist admin page that lets you go into detail on what kind of song it is... So say it is an electronic song, but the subgenre is trance, then you can write that out and let people know what they're listening to... And lastly... Why bother just choosing a genre at all? Just listen to individuals? Enjoy everyone! Maybe you won't be so stressed out with trying to find a song that's in the right genre or anything... Honey have fun here... This place isn't made to be work for ya okay? This isn't meant to flame you be mean or anything like that sir... I swear on my vocal cords...
pog	Date: June 21, 2004 @ 12:18 PM Like MonnieB said, the speed that a track is uploaded to DMusic would be governed by connection speed, and how many pc's you have to go through to get there. I find that when I upload a track, it's more than adequate enough, and I like the fact that DMusic doesn't leech from other sites! Soundclick doesn't allow you to post 320k mp3's unless you subscribe, and they also suggest that even though there is no limit to the amount of songs you can post, they add something like .. most artists post around 5 songs. On top of that, the DMusic community is a rare find, considering how many people will bend over backwards to help each other find their way around. Are you aware that AOL and a few other companies are the reason that soundclick even exists ? Coincidentally, they say that you can "slurp" from your AOL page and many others. Good luck to them. As far as the genre's on DMusic go... the charts are a nice place to look for new songs to listen to, but some people who have songs in the charts don't even come back and support their fellow musicians... they just post their music and then leave the place, (not very passionate about their music if you ask me) others, don't care about the charts, and find plenty of awesome music to listen to by chatting to each other when they have common interests. If you wanna listen to neo-trance-electronica-space music... then start a thread about it in the appropriate forums... thats what they're there for ... to discuss music
leflaw	Date: June 21, 2004 @ 6:57 PM AOL owns soundclick???
leflaw	Date: June 21, 2004 @ 6:59 PM what we need (and will build) is a bulk uploader.
boots2004	Date: June 21, 2004 @ 8:09 PM i to am at sound click although im new here i like this site alot i got alot of flak there about bin laden the camel fucker song even though it went and stayed #1 for a long time i think i have found a home here hehehe or a haunted house? hahaha
robbydadrummer	Date: June 21, 2004 @ 8:21 PM can you add an upload progress window to that?
boots2004	Date: June 21, 2004 @ 9:00 PM yes a bulk uploader would be great
pog	Date: June 22, 2004 @ 3:12 AM Na... aol doesn't own soundclick, but they are a big investor. AOL Time Warner Atlantic Records, Maverick Records, and J Records are all "high profile investors"
pog	Date: June 22, 2004 @ 3:18 AM ...they are incorperated by the law firm of Wilson, Sonsini, Goodrich, and Rosatti. They also have about 2000 labels using their service.
robbydadrummer	Date: June 22, 2004 @ 4:05 AM "using their service"... hmmm, similar to mp3.crap giving all the music to TruSonic without telling the bands?
voxster	Date: June 25, 2004 @ 10:21 AM I've been with Soundclick since January of this year. Because genre is the focus of the main page, you're not immediately hit with bad pics, attitude, and everyone else who has a complex of some sort they openly share with the world. If a site has special offers that help in promotion and exposure, don't saturate the front page with all those who have bought it. Do it in other ways such as having your personal page link immediately play music (for the high price of $4 or $5 a month). I've personally landed 3 straight # 2 songs (over 5 or 6,000 in the Pop category) and 3 straight # 1 songs in a specific sub-genre. DMusic has the forums - Thats its strength - thats why I signed on. Lots of good, knowledgable people here. Just my opinion. Both have strengths and weaknesses. I appreciate both-
figfarmer	Date: June 25, 2004 @ 1:12 PM Those labels on SoundClick aren't up to much usually. It is a nice place to find artists outside your regular area of influence to record your tunes, and it is a nice place to store your tunes. The charts there mean nothing, as the people have learned to manipulate them at will.
voxster	Date: June 25, 2004 @ 3:58 PM True about the "meaningless charts" on Soundclick, and no doubt you can definitely network your way to the top with a "less than stellar" song. On the other hand, its a pretty good feeling to know your posted (free) material is being downloaded by 350 to 400 people a day. So there is a little to topping an internet chart. Your sitting at the top of a chart and hundreds of people from around the world will click your link out of curiosity alone! But any clear thinking person doesnt go into SC or Dmusic thinking the exposure is going to get them signed - Its just a great way of sharing your music, experiences, as well as plenty of opportunities to encourage other musicians. Another good site for sharing ideas is Muziquenet.com - Check it out as well (free site- interesting articles)
SoFreshNSoClean	Date: August 27, 2004 @ 9:01 AM DMUSIC IS WAY MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN SOUNDCLICK half of the time soundclick won't even load!!!
SoFreshNSoClean	Date: August 27, 2004 @ 9:02 AM I think DMUSIC just needs more promotion to get out there. Like Mp3.com used to be...
hueseph	Date: August 27, 2004 @ 12:10 PM All I can say is no pop up ads on dmusic. Which is everything when I visit a site.
GTLive	Date: August 29, 2004 @ 8:05 AM I had SoundClick for about five minutes. The Community as it is needs free Ritalin, not a Free Account IMHO. DM is WAY better.
djeffectz	Date: August 29, 2004 @ 11:37 AM Sorry to hear I am an anal retentive asshole.. "seems to me alot of artist are coming over to the "D" side" Yep! Because, like someone else said, there is NO COMMUNITY at Soundclick. Acid Planet has a better community than Soundclick and that is just sad. Dmusic's community is why I came here. Albeit I still use SC and AP to put stuff on but I hang out here even though I release stuff there all the time. One of the big attractions to SC and AP is there isn't an upload limit to the number of songs you can have. 250 MB is a lot though (I am going to upgrade later when I'll be around more to use it), but the 75 MB (and not being able to easily delete songs) goes quick; but it's still great so I am not complaining because that's free. The sub genre thing: THANK YOU FOR NOT HAVING THEM. I don't have to get a headache thinking about what it is before I upload it.
gothian	Date: September 1, 2004 @ 11:15 PM For me is simple, you can do pretty much the same (as musician) here and there. Soundclick = Impersonal DMusic = Comunity
hypnoticmind	Date: September 4, 2004 @ 4:13 PM i agree with what djeffectz is saying. its nice to be able to post music on multiple sites for some exposure. dmusic has a great neighborhood feel. i am glad to be a part of it!
mudshadow	Date: September 5, 2004 @ 9:27 PM I agree with Gothian completely. I can post as much music as I want on Sound click, But I get very little feedback and it's very impersonal. I've met a lot of cool folks here and I've been blown away by much of the talent. I prefer the community atmosphere here.
DjRiktor	Date: September 5, 2004 @ 11:51 PM Soundclick?! wtf is that? Looks like someone's behind the times
Chu-Deezy	Date: September 6, 2004 @ 1:05 PM I Like DM cuz like every1 dun said, its more community, shit is shown that u jus' posted up a song or a comment fer ur listenin' 2 people's stuff which definitely gives an equal amount of exposure here. Soundclick is ight, im on that 2 so that i can put the tracks that don't fit here, so i like how u can put more tracks up n how shit is separated by geography, like state,city, etc. so u can interact wit artist that r local 2 u. thas about it tho'...but other than that i like DM better mayne.
mrdilligence	Date: September 27, 2004 @ 5:13 PM i hate to say it but our SC page gets alot more hits than our dmusic one i also think the SC one is more asthetically pleasing and has more useful info judge for yourself http://trp.dmusic.com http://www.soundclick.com/trpnmewreckidz holla dill
icisnizz	Date: September 27, 2004 @ 7:02 PM dmusic infomercial?

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