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R.I.P. Proof

aflunky	Date: April 11, 2006 @ 2:00 PM Proof, a member of the Eminem-fronted Detroit-based hip-hop sextet D12, was killed early Tuesday morning outside a Detroit nightclub in a shooting that left another man in critical condition. According to NBC News affiliate WDIV, Proof (whose real name is DeShaun Holton) suffered a gunshot wound to the head at the CCC Club on East Eight Mile Road, near Gratiot Avenue. By the time police arrived, the club had been cleared out, but several witnesses have come forward to discuss the incident with investigators. A spokesperson for the Detroit police would not discuss the shooting, as the 32-year-old rapper's next of kin have not yet been notified of his murder. Both victims (the other man's name has not been released) were transported to area hospitals; Proof was rushed to St. John Holy Cross Hospital, while the second victim, who is 35 and also sustained a gunshot to the head, was taken to St. John Hospital, where he's listed as being in critical condition. Proof was pronounced dead on arrival. Proof, Eminem's longtime friend, appeared in the film "8 Mile" as Lil' Tic; he also served as Eminem's best man when the rapper remarried his wife Kim Mathers in January. Police are searching for the suspected gunman; a description has not been made available. Detectives have asked that anyone with any information on the shooting come forward. (From D12world.com) This is very sad. Proof was the founder of D12, Em's best friend from even before they got big, and next to Em, the best rapper in D12. My prayers go to his family and friends.
K3VIN	Date: April 11, 2006 @ 3:15 PM One of my favourite rappers ever... been a proud supporter of him... its really hitting me hard...
jdub3384	Date: April 11, 2006 @ 3:18 PM very sad day for hip hop, especially for Detroit. Big Proof you will be missed. R.I.P.
K3VIN	Date: April 11, 2006 @ 3:37 PM http://board.rapmusic.com/showthread.php?t=977508&page=1 in the middle of the first page there are some rare downloads of proof if anyone would like to download them.
aflunky	Date: April 11, 2006 @ 3:49 PM Send your best wishes on his myspace http://www.myspace.com/proofd12
Chu-Deezy	Date: April 11, 2006 @ 5:11 PM Damn... I jus' seen this shit on tha news man... R.I.P another soulja gone...
Chu-Deezy	Date: April 11, 2006 @ 5:12 PM Por out a lil' liquor fer Proof mayne... Rest In Paradise...
jdub3384	Date: April 11, 2006 @ 5:32 PM I'm almost ashamed to be in Detroit. I got luv for my hometown MCs, but I see some of these cats have nothing but hate. Proof you will me missed!
jdub3384	Date: April 11, 2006 @ 5:32 PM *be
K3VIN	Date: April 11, 2006 @ 10:11 PM Detroit is cold.
aflunky	Date: April 11, 2006 @ 10:57 PM You know, listening to the songs on "D12 World" used to get me hyped up, especially Proof's verses in 'Bitch' and '40 Oz'. Today, it makes me somber. Hopefully with time I can listen to his solo and D12 music with respect and rememberance. I just hope they catch the ungrateful coward who did this.
aflunky	Date: April 11, 2006 @ 11:22 PM (From SOHH.com) Speaking to the hip-hop Website SOHH.com last summer to promote his album, Proof tried to distance himself from the violence in his lyrics. "I feel that when you're put in a position of power to reach back to people who are in the streets still trying to make it that you try to make sure that people aren't beefing," he said. We're trying to have peace in the streets." The Q&A ended with a question about what he hopes fans remember about him "when all is said and done." "I'd want them to say that I'm a true artist," he said. "That as far as being who I am and expressing what it is that makes up me, that I did it the best and that I stayed true to the hip-hop roots. "If I were to take my bow--which I never hope to do, I think I can rap forever--then I'd want people to understand that I did this for the love."
PoisonCornFl...	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 5:08 AM Are you ready hey are you ready for this? Are you hanging on the edge of your seat? Out of the doorway the bullets rip To the sound of the beat yeah Another one bites the dust Another one bites the dust And another one gone and another one gone Another one bites the dust
BIR	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 5:38 AM ^Eat more Poison Flakes,ya heartless f*ck! No/jk if you were here in my room right Now I would bust your Grill for that! Proof was like a John lennon to the hip hop world. Fucking I listened to shade 45's "Rude Jude" I been listening to his stuff daily for the last few weeks.I cant believe This just Happened/what a fucked up world. Cops better catch the dumb ass who did this.
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PoisonCornFl...	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 9:24 AM i thought tupoc was the john lennon of hiphop... anyways every year a rapper dies outside some ghetto night club, maybe they should either wear kevlar or avoid playing in rundown neighborhoods
K3VIN	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 11:37 AM proof apprently pushed a bouncer downshot then shot the bouncer and the bouncers brother shot him from behind... and he told the story, this seems a little fishy, i know proof fouht at clubs, but the witness was his brother coulda ealiy taken otu details, and proofisnt a big guy, so pushing down a 200 pund + guy isnt the easiest thing to jsut do.
shadowself	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 2:22 PM DETROIT, Michigan (AP) -- Rapper Proof fired the first bullet in a Detroit nightclub shootout that ended his life, police said Wednesday. The bullet hit Keith Bender, 35, in the head, critically injuring him early Tuesday at the C.C.C., a bar in a strip of businesses along Eight Mile, the road made famous in Eminem's movie of the same name. Proof, whose real name is Deshaun Holton, was taken to a nearby outpatient treatment center by a private car, where he was pronounced dead. Detectives are currently trying to figure out who shot Proof, said Detroit police spokesman Sgt. Omar Feliciano. He said his office was told by homicide detectives that Proof fired the first shot at Bender. Feliciano said no further information has been released. Proof, 32, was a member of the rap group D12 and was the best man in Eminem's January wedding. Eminem was seldom seen in public without Proof. Police said officers responding to 911 calls about 4:30 a.m. Tuesday found the bar empty when they arrived. Bender also was taken to a hospital by a private car. Police Chief Ella Bully-Cummings said Tuesday that detectives don't know what Proof was doing at the bar, which was operating outside of its licensed hours. Investigators face a unique challenge because no victims were present at the crime scene, Bully-Cummings said. Police have said that an argument between two parties at the club escalated into gunfire.
PoisonCornFl...	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 5:30 PM so he started it then, well he got what he deserved
K3VIN	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 5:40 PM ^^stfu u dotn even know the story... he didnt start it... you obviously never been to a club or bar before, bouncers arent always the nicest people, and proof isnt the type of guy to pull a gun and kill anyone out of nothing....
K3VIN	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 5:49 PM there were peoplke out to get him, you dont know anything, the man shot is in critical condition, and Proof is dead, the person who said proof started it was the other victims brother.. of course their gonna say the other guys the bad guy...
shadowself	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 5:54 PM You can't say that he didn't start it any more than PCF can say that he did. You were not there. You also don't know him personally, so you don't know that he isn't the type of guy to start something. After all, he WAS the type to bring a loaded gun to a bar. Not defending anyone, but it would be nice to see opinions here based on facts instead of speculation for a change.
MisterQ	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 6:01 PM all you mothafuckaz who are sayin bad shit 'bout proof...fuck you! i hope y'all givin that dead man shit get shot yerselves. we shouldn't be happy this mc is dead. he has the best freestyles i've ever heard. and his other tracks are dope too. Proof
shadowself	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 6:08 PM Who is happy? I don't see anyone happy here. We're discussing what has been said in the media, what is just speculation, and we're doing it in a fairly civil tone. In English. So fuck you, kiddo. The adults are trying to talk here.
aflunky	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 6:22 PM OK, Regulating here... PCF, That bite the dust shit is disrespectful and not welcomed here. If you wanna make fun of a fallen MC and not have anything productive to say, then go elsewhere. K3, I understand you're only responding to PCF's crap, but shadowself is right about trying to keep to facts. DrKlown, I couldn't agree with you more, but I'm trying to keep bullshit off this thread. Please keep this thread down to facts and tributes.
K3VIN	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 6:23 PM Proof had a liscense to carry his gun, the one that killed him im not so sure about, if any of you have witnessed someone in a club or bar being mistreated by bouncers ud know shit happens all the time, and proofs the kinda guy that woulndt take shit, so im sure drugs or alcohol made some poor judgement on both sides which resulted in the death of a great artist.
K3VIN	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 6:33 PM K I have some things I wanna get out of the way that don't add up to me or are certain things. -The bar/club was operating after hours and has had problems before -The bouncer and Proof were both there when they weren't supposed to be -During the conflict any person could have broken up the fight ie. the other bouncer coulda broken up the fight before anyone pushed -Proof is not the biggest guy you'll see, it's hard to believe a 160 pound guy pushed down a bouncer and shot him right away and no one jumped in moments before this moment, if there was yelling, shouldn't the bouncers have taken him away (maybe they were trying to do that, but they could have gotten more then one to sustain it) -The only eye witness who has given info was the brother of the other victim, so the truth could ahve been twisted -Proof is a man known not for starting fights, but joining in them if a friend is involved -Not all bouncers are BUT, bouncers can be bullies.
aflunky	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 6:36 PM As a guy that likes to go to the club and shit, I've seen bouncers act like dicks. Unfortunately for those incidents, the bouncers usually win. I don't know the laws about licenses to carry weapons in Michigan, but usually it has to be visible. If Proof was hiding it, and he didn't have a concealed weapons license, he may have been in the wrong there. It will be a while before we get all the facts straight.
aflunky	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 6:39 PM As a guy that likes to go to the club and shit, I've seen bouncers act like dicks. Unfortunately for those incidents, the bouncers usually win. I don't know the laws about licenses to carry weapons in Michigan, but usually it has to be visible. If Proof was hiding it, and he didn't have a concealed weapons license, he may have been in the wrong there. It will be a while before we get all the facts straight.
aflunky	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 6:55 PM What I find Funny is that Detroit Police have confirmed through "witnesses" that Proof Shot Bender first. Yet there is only one witness who's talking and it happens to be the brother of Bender. Bender is a former Army Sargent. (A lot of Army guys I know are fucking nuts) IDK, maybe I'm just Nuking it. I'm starting to get more opinionated.
BIR	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 9:07 PM http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage
BIR	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 9:11 PM Suspect in rapper's shooting death turns himself in.. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060412/UPDATE/604120440
K3VIN	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 9:19 PM weird, idk why they would fight.
EchoMinor	Date: April 12, 2006 @ 11:15 PM this sort of thing seems to happen once a year. some rapper outside or inside a hiphop nightclub gets capped, or is the one doing the capping stabbing. hiphop seems dangerous once you start getting big.
BIR	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 5:45 AM :sad: " id="214636"> Deshaun Holton aka "Big Proof" 10/2/73-4/11/06 RIP.
BIR	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 7:16 AM Big Proof :hug:I got Mad love for the D and the Rap community it hosts.Proof was a big part of it all and JDilla was too.:hug:The D,that bitch needs it!:hug: shyt has been ruff for the last few. What I think is sad,.. the fact that Proof was on a mission to start making less violent songs thats what IRON FIST Records was about... making a change,but now that Proof is gone people will just talk about the violence in his lyrics.But he was telling his story stuff he grew up around in his hood,Hip Hop is the Streets/world/People and Proof stayed true to his game and touched many. :hug:EMinEM/D12:hug: " id="214642">"hiphop seems dangerous once you start getting big" This is true,now more than ever. But I feel its not just hip hop its also true about Life in general... What I'm saying is life is just Dangerous with the massive amount of guns on the streets and in homes your chances for survival have been deminished by that fact alone. If your in the rap game hate'n mofuackas as they are know can make your odds of Survival worse,because they want to eat,they want your spot,they want the shyt that you got. Thats part of the problem going on right now New Jacks/Haters talking shyt try'n to start beef between the sets,sometimes I think that they try to and know that if they can get people to shoot each other they wont have to have it done. But there is room in the Rap Game for alot more people to get on and make some skrilla/Money.Its all about look'n out for each other,as Humans, brothers & sisters. Big Proof I got Mad love for the D and the Rap community it hosts.Proof was a big part of it all and JDilla was too.The D,that bitch needs it! shyt has been ruff for the last few. What I think is sad,.. the fact that Proof was on a mission to start making less violent songs thats what IRON FIST Records was about... making a change,but now that Proof is gone people will just talk about the violence in his lyrics.But he was telling his story stuff he grew up around in his hood,Hip Hop is the Streets/world/People and Proof stayed true to his game and touched many. EMinEM/D12
K3VIN	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 10:07 AM this has nothing to do with hip hop... this happens in detroit all the time.
K3VIN	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 10:13 AM the latest story i heard is that they fought over a pool game, and a gun shot went off in the air (not proof) so proof brought out his heat... a bit more understandable.. still sad.
jdub3384	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 10:23 AM ight fuck you if you say Proof got what he deserved. no one deserves that. secondly, in michigan it's called a CCW (carry concealed weapon) so Proof was licenced to carry, and obviously the situation he was in, he felt the need to pull out his strap. Who shot first it's hard to tell, cause if it was an altercation that escalated to gunfire, shot can be fired within miliseconds. So fuck yall who talk about the situation and have no business doing so. let him Rest In Peace.
jdub3384	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 10:39 AM NEW UPDATE: A 28-year-old man suspected of fatally shooting rapper Proof of D12 turned himself in today (April 12). Mario Etheridge, 28, of Detroit is being detained by the police for allegedly shooting the rapper during an altercation inside of the C.C.C. nightclub. Etheridge was also a bouncer at the C.C.C. nightclub. Police said he is a cousin of Keith Bender Jr., the bouncer who was allegedly shot by Proof during the fight, which took place around 4:30 am Tuesday. Sources told AllHipHop.com that the altercation was rooted in a pool game. For unknown reasons, the men two began arguing and a fight broke out. A shot was fired in the air, Proof allegedly pistol-whipped Bender, knocked him to the ground and then shot him. Etheridge then allegedly open fire on the rapper, striking him four times in the head and chest. Authorities are still investigating the incident, but police said the 28-year-old was cooperating with authorities. Bender, a former Sgt. in the United States Army, is on life support in critical condition.
EchoMinor	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 3:21 PM does anyone have proof that "proof" was licensed to carry a firearm?
K3VIN	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 3:23 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RaisCrfcp4&search=PROOF%20D12 just saying a gun shot was done before proof fired.
K3VIN	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 3:24 PM also youtube has a lot of nice tribute videos.
EchoMinor	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 3:33 PM well after watching that i feel that "not to be disrespectful" but he asked for it, if it is true that he fired the first shot. sure there is more than one side...BUT i keep seeing that famous quote "live by the gun die by the gun" perhaps they should all rethink that.
K3VIN	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 3:43 PM chaos, he didnt fire first.
K3VIN	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 3:43 PM RIP Proof
EchoMinor	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 3:45 PM the video said witnesses said he DID fire first. either way, 4am in a detroit nightclub...bad decision.
K3VIN	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 3:52 PM no... that was the victims brother who said that, if you watched that video, you would have heard a fire was shot in the air.
EchoMinor	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 3:57 PM well...i just streamed it again and that reporter before mentioning a thing about a fire shot in the air she says: "witnesses reporting that "proof" shot first" sure their is more than one side with the witnesses but he shouldnt have been at any club in a bad part of town at 4am. fame and money cant fix everything, sometimes you just need better common sense.
K3VIN	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 4:52 PM the witness was his brother, why wouldnt he twist the truth.
TDUBB	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 5:36 PM this is a bad coincidence. The rapper "Proof" that was shot and killed also got shot and killed in Eminem's video "Like a Toy Soldier" http://music.yahoo.com/ar-289114-videos--Eminem
MisterQ	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 5:50 PM not to be an ass or anything but it's called "Like Toy Soldiers"
MisterQ	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 5:50 PM http://files.dmusic.com/music/d/r/drklown/proof.JPG
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K3VIN	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 6:22 PM Theirs more then that... Proof prophesized his death in a song, and knew it was coming.
BIR	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 7:05 PM He was searching for spiritual enlightenment. "No T. Lose," a track from his 2005 solo album "Searching for Jerry Garcia," "Broken hearted, my soul's like an open target/ And I'm ready to leave Earth, you step to my death next year on my T-shirt." Proof was licensed to carry a firearm,Most of the big players in the rap community have a License to carry when they get Big. SHOOTING TAKES PLACE @ C-NOTE LOUNGE DURING RELEASE PARTY 04/13/2006 Last night at C-Notes Lounge a fight and shooting took place during what was supposed to be a celebrated event for Detroit HipHop. . . In the midst of a CD release party for Detroit's own John Drama, early details state that two people were shot and taken to different hospitals for treatment.. One of the victims has been reported as being killed. The condition of the other victim is not yet known.. There is no word on exactly who the victims are of if they were members of the Detroit HipHop community.
EchoMinor	Date: April 13, 2006 @ 8:41 PM i wouldnt say most, some of them have criminal records "not saying most, just some" and that would prevent them from being able to own a gun legally, and especially get a permit.
K3VIN	Date: April 14, 2006 @ 1:48 AM A source exclusive to SOHH.com has revealed that the argument that resulted in the death of D12 member Proof was initiated by the other victim in the shootout over a "King of Detroit" argument. As SOHH previously reported, Proof and Keith Bender got into a heated exchange at Triple C's nightclub early Tuesday morning (April 11) which lead to Proof pistol-whipping and shooting Bender. Proof was then gunned down by Bender's cousin as he stood over Bender. "[Bender] started an argument with Proof, knowing who he was," the source told SOHH. "Proof told him he didn't want to hear any bullshit and that he was 'King of Detroit' and stuck his hands in [Bender's] face. "The guy then pulled out his gun and then Proof pulled his out and shot -- hitting the guy," the source added. "The guy's cousin who is a bouncer at the club then shot Proof. They grabbed up the gun from the guy Proof shot and fled." According to the Wayne County Medical Examiner's Office, Proof was shot three times in the head and the chest. He was pronounced dead on arrival at St. John Conner Creek Village in Detroit. Bender is currently in St. Johns Hospital and Medical Center in critical condition. On Wednesday afternoon (April 12), Mario Etheridge, a 28 year-old bouncer at the Triple C's nightclub, turned himself in to Detroit Police accompanied by his attorney Randall Upshaw. Upon arrest, he revealed he was Bender's cousin. Etheridge is still in custody and authorities are continuing to investigate whether he should face charges in the shooting, which Detroit Police said, might have been in self-defense. But SOHH.com sources say Etheridge surrendered out of self-preservation. "The guy turned himself in out of fear he was going to get got at by Proof's people," said the source. "Proof frequented the place and there is of course no way the bouncer or anyone else in the club didn't know who he was," Proof's untimely death continues to overwhelm his fans and peers in the music industry. Today, Royce Da 5'9" expressed his feelings regarding the unfortunate passing of Proof in a statement. "I am deeply saddened by the murder of someone I called a good friend. I've known Proof for over nine years and will always remember him for the joy and life that he brought into every room he entered. We first met at Detroit's Hip Hop Shop where Proof was hosting open mics and was considered by most to be Detroit's freestyle king. Even then you could tell there was something special about him." "Some people might be familiar with a well-publicized beef that Proof and I had a couple of years ago," Royce added via the statement. "Thankfully though, we had not only resolved our conflict, but we also restored our friendship. Back in December, we went overseas together for a few spot dates in Europe where we had a chance to catch up on 'the good ole days.' We both laughed at how we sometimes forget how far we've come, until you look out of your hotel window and see London's Big Ben or Paris's EiffelTower. On that tour we had a chance to visit cities we never even knew existed. Not bad for two kids from Detroit, huh." "His death is such a loss for the hip hop community, and especially for the city of Detroit. I hope that he will be remembered for the talented artist and great person that he was, and not the tragedy that he fell victim to. My thoughts and prayers go out to his entire family, friends, and anyone that was ever touched by him."
EchoMinor	Date: April 14, 2006 @ 1:52 AM sucks he died, but damn 4am in a small detroit club? im sure God is bonking him on the head as he says: "McFly???" Hellooo McFly!???"
K3VIN	Date: April 14, 2006 @ 1:53 AM Royce is that dude.
BIR	Date: April 15, 2006 @ 8:03 AM BIG PROOF'S FUNERAL ARRANGEMENTS HAVE BEEN RELEASED Viewing will be held Tuesday April 18, 2006 from 9AM til 9PM @ Swanson Funeral Home 806 E. Grand Blvd Detroit, MI 48207 The Funeral will be taking place at 11AM Wednesday April 19, 2006 @ Fellowship Chapel 7707 W. Outer Drive Detroit, MI 48235 Eminem posted the following message on his site. Proof "You don't know where to begin when you lose somebody who's been such a big part of your life for so long. Proof and I were brothers. He pushed me to become who I am. . . Without Proof's guidance and encouragement there would have been a Marshall Mathers, but probably not an Eminem and certainly never a Slim Shady. Not a day will go by without his spirit and influence around us all. He will be missed as a friend, father and both the heart and ambassador of Detroit hip-hop. Right now, there's a lot of people focusing on the way he died. I want to remember the way he lived. Proof was funny, he was smart, he was charming. He inspired everyone around him. He can never, ever be replaced. He was, and always will be, my best friend." - Eminem
aflunky	Date: April 15, 2006 @ 10:25 AM Him and Em were best friends since highschool. Proof encouraged Em to do his best and in return when Em got big, he helped out Proof. It's obvious that his death has devistated Em. Thanks for the info BIR
Nitemair	Date: April 15, 2006 @ 3:52 PM yo i heard about this shit at work. shit sucks. It seems rap and murder is begining to go hand and hand which is a shame, but truth. He was a nasty emcee. Another lose to the world of hip-hop. what a fuckin shame. R.I.P-Deshaun "Proof" Holton
sinai	Date: April 17, 2006 @ 10:01 AM dead over a pool game... as a side note, licensed gun or not, it's still VERY illegal to take one into a bar, aside from being illegal to shoot anyone with it.
pmscpc	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 6:23 AM I blame Charlton Heston. I didn't realise pool was that important in America. We only have Snooker on the TV over here and it's more or less universally accepted that it's not worth dying over.... or even worth staying up late to watch the end. Not like Football (for the US read Soccer). We prefer stabbings - they can be just as terminal but are much quieter.
sinai	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 8:29 AM he got killed killing somebody, fuck him.
K3VIN	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 9:36 AM ^^ you never know whats going on...fuck you... people make mistakes, and no one really knows he drew the weapon first... plus we all know its a law in michigan that if you talk during someones shoot in pool you get shot.
K3VIN	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 9:36 AM fuck jimi hendrix, fuck john lennon and fuck anyone else who died they clearly brought it upon themselves.
sinai	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 9:47 AM i don't remember john lennon or jimi hendrix shooting anybody... a mistake is not shooting someone, a mistake is something you didn't mean to do, shooting someone in the head is not a mistake but, before it becomes a big arguement, i suppose you're right, i wasn't there. it just bugs me to glorify a killer.
K3VIN	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 11:03 AM jimi took shots at alcohol it took shots at him.
kingo	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 11:03 AM still: didn't kill anybody.
jimbobber1985	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 11:04 AM agrees with sinai, we shouldn't feel sorry for someone who was killed trying to kill someone else. if he wasn't a celebrity no-one would care, every one would say "he had it coming". this just highlights further the gun problem in america. everyonehas guns, apparently you can get a licence to have a concealed weapon (a fact which amazes me). all those people taking proofs side, let me ask you this: if you were in that bar and proof shot your cousin and you had a gun, what would you do? also im not glorifying the shooter, he deserves to be brought to justice.
K3VIN	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 11:09 AM i agree his cousin wasnt wrong to do it, but you yet again do not know what happened, if you felt your life was threatened what would you do? i guess jimi had it coming he couldnt control himself.
kingo	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 11:18 AM He should've felt his life threatened before even going in there. And remember, jimbobber1985: Guns don't kill people. Pool kills people.
K3VIN	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 11:44 AM your life is always at risk.
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 7:50 PM (Imitating Mr. Mackey from South Park...) Guns are bad..don't do guns...drugs are bad...m'kay !
BIR	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 6:17 PM But nobody said a thing about the fucking Bouncer Having a gun!! I have been a bouncer/I could not Take my Gun with me into the club AT ALL! But Private shows away from the club,. you bet your ass I had a 9 and a 44. You never know when its your time,or how its gona happen. It's sad that people are saying stuff life "Fuck Him" and "he got what he deserved" What The Fuck is that? 2-people are dead! Nobody got what they deserved so the next person who say's some dumb shyt about Big Proof is not getting any breaks from me at all. so in advance..:mlm: to all you low-lifes who bad mouth a person who has just passed on. :2cent:" id="215938">sinai Date: April 19, 2006 @ 8:29 AM he got killed killing somebody, fuck him. Oh-Man.. OK...lets just say YOU "sinai" were playing pool for a $1000 a game.... Drunk as fuck..and when you reached into your pocket a shyt load of cash falls out on the floor. Then some dudes said they was gona rob your shyt... all you have is a gun.you decide to leave, You start to walk out of the bar and the same dude's are right behind you...NUFF SAID!! SHYTS GOING DOWN. Proof was a nice guy he would give you the shirt off his back,he'd put ya up for the night If ya needed a place to crash,if ya was hungry he'd get ya food... (D12/Proof/Em)They did do alot for the neighborhood they grew up in. Daycares,Parks,Homeless shelters,They did good stuff too! People just don't hear about that kind of stuff, it aint on no news cause its not a "if it bleeds it leads" story. So He took a gun with him to the bar... thats wrong in somepeoples eyes (not mine,I'd say you'd be a fool not to have protection in the D) But nobody said a thing about the fucking Bouncer Having a gun!! I have been a bouncer/I could not Take my Gun with me into the club AT ALL! But Private shows away from the club,. you bet your ass I had a 9 and a 44. You never know when its your time,or how its gona happen. It's sad that people are saying stuff life "Fuck Him" and "he got what he deserved" What The Fuck is that? 2-people are dead! Nobody got what they deserved so the next person who say's some dumb shyt about Big Proof is not getting any breaks from me at all. so in advance.. to all you low-lifes who bad mouth a person who has just passed on. :2cent:
BIR	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 6:23 PM The shooting was outside the bar.
K3VIN	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 6:26 PM are you serious? so wut the fuck are the bouncers doing outside... fucking with people, see what i dont get is why a dude would pistol whip a dude for no reason, i think the guy pulled a heat out and the cousin hid it or something...
K3VIN	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 6:27 PM arwait or do u meam.. anyways the story is fishy to me.
BIR	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 6:30 PM On the otherside of the road from CCC on east side of Hayes & south side of 8mile.
K3VIN	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 6:41 PM so the bouncer came outside with his cousin??? seems fucked up... idk why they would follow proof.
BIR	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 7:17 PM "I want to give you an idea of the Deshaun I knew," said an emotional and worn-looking Eminem, who had Proof serve as his best man at his wedding earlier this year. "This is the same man that when I was 16 years old, came over to the east side, took a pair of shoes and said, 'Put them on.' I said, 'Put what on?' and he said, 'These shoes, because I'm tired of you wearing them dirty-ass shoes.' I apologize for cussing in church, but that's what he said." The hip-hop megastar added: "He taught me how to be a leader. I'm sure everybody who has ever met him, even just once, can testify to the fact that he illuminated a room when he walked in it. I believe that Proof loved people and people loved him. He was a magnet. He lured you in. You wanted to learn about him, follow his swagger. Without Proof, there would be no Eminem, no Slim Shady, no D12." read more @ http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060420/NEWS01/604200544/1039/ENT
LikquaB	Date: April 26, 2006 @ 12:07 PM deep stuff

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