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RocShaman	Date: December 17, 2006 @ 8:17 AM There are from 600 to 800 of these camps around the country. Why? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=277826260716604258
ShadowMom	Date: December 17, 2006 @ 1:00 PM So buried somewhere in the armed forces' budget, this must show up. I wonder what they would call it. And how they justify it. And who knows about it. And that's the key question.
shadowself	Date: December 17, 2006 @ 1:31 PM That's REALLY disturbing.
FraDonaghy	Date: December 17, 2006 @ 8:10 PM What exactly is the video suggesting? The American Govt plans to start killing undesirables in some kind of modern Holocaust? If so, why would they allow them anywhere near where they intended to conduct such a thing?
ChillinBuzz	Date: December 17, 2006 @ 8:16 PM one of the comments on that video: "Damn it. First Kanye exposes how Bush and the rest of my fellow republicans conjured up hurricane katrina because he don't care about black people, now this dumb broad is exposing the death camps FEMA made to deal with the survivors" er, why would they need triple layered barbed wire fences for "survivors"? or a means to mass transport people? and why the heck would you use a company that produces gases in bulk used for asphyxiation? hello? is this a blatant hoax or the Nazi's final solution revived?
hate9wicket	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 1:08 AM http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/11/348653.shtml I wonder if I'll get a knock on my door, or if I'll be pulled over sometime, or just "disappeared" somehow....am I being paranoid? I hope so...but then again, one of my senators owned the company that made the vote counting machines that were used in the election he won, so....yeah, Chuck Hagel might sound like a critic of the administration on tv, but, it's a pretty good act, if you ask me.
Opossum	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 2:08 AM Well, I heard they were going to start using much of central Australia as a (nuclear) waste dump, so... who knows?
bmccosar	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 8:52 AM All I could find on it that seemed even remotely scholarly: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=American_concentration_camps The page has additional links. Speaking as an American Indian, all I can say is, welcome to our world, fellas.
Opossum	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 9:02 AM I miss my cypress swamp home near Nocatee, Flordia... Wonder how the Florida panthers are doing these days? It's been a long time.
freddemillio	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 9:26 AM From what I could see on googling around it would seem credible that Reagan initiated plans in 1984 to deal with a possible need to imprison very large numbers of people (US citizens or otherwise). One of the plans was called Rex-84. That seems to be really in the public record. If we take that as a given, then it is plausible that such camps do sit around the USA and are waiting for a presidential order to move to an active state. Whether those filmed images are the camps or not is not particularly important. The important thing is that the USA government has already accepted the idea and have made preparations.
freddemillio	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 9:29 AM REX 84 link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84
GeneHilbert	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 10:49 AM You people are so paranoid, how the hell do you sleep at night. Everything is a fucking conspiracy. Please……… They're coming to take you away ha ha. The white zone is for loading and unloading. For loading and unloading use the white zone. Sweet Dreams……..
zedsalt	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 10:58 AM Ah, so the Reagan/Bush Era was just a nasty nightmare; we woke from it to the real peace and prosperity of the Clinton years, and we'll wake from the nightmare we find ourselves in now? That DOES make me feel better! I should've known I was dreaming when yesterday, I heard a GOOD idea come out of Newt F**kin' Gingrich's mouth, of all places! He was suggesting that some sort of Conservation Corps-style organization would be good for young Iraqis- put a little money in their pockets, give them a stake in their nation's success, etc. Newt making sense- I should've known THAT wasn't real...
Distilled1	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 2:08 PM I wont even say how stupid this is. as every old factory looks like this. I worked for 10 years at a aluminum prossesing plant. its now closed down it looks just like this, from the old train cars, to the ags gas (yes they also provide industrial gas in fact thats what they provide Chlorine, propane, hydrogen, methane). I'll have to go take some vidieo and post it maybe I can create a flying saucer manufacturing plant Oh even the turn styles yep its just like this.
bmccosar	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 2:15 PM maybe I can create a flying saucer manufacturing plant Well, we have space for that right next to my factory, where we make those tin hats to keep out CIA control rays.
ShadowMom	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 8:06 PM Okay, I'll sound stupid. In south Florida, which is not a manufacturing area in any sense of the word, there are no factories like this. Why the turnstile? What's the point? And I won't say I believe this, or disbelieve it. I'm a curious person, and this is a different lifestyle from anything I've ever known. All factories have 3 rows of barbed wire? Why?
shadowself	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 8:20 PM On 18th Dec 2008, GeneHilbert said: You people are so paranoid, how the hell do you sleep at night. Everything is a fucking conspiracy. Please……… They're coming to take you away ha ha. The white zone is for loading and unloading. For loading and unloading use the white zone. Sweet Dreams…….. Hey, I predicted that response! Not being confrontational, I am just curious as I am not too informed on cases like this. How do you explain this, Gene?
shadowself	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 8:20 PM The facility I mean, not my uninformed-ness.
Distilled1	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 8:37 PM turnstiles keep dangerous materials from leaving the site. and without being there and knowing what part of the building or where its going we have no idea, it may be where more top secret development went on. Methanol for one. barbed wire yes all over Detroit, Chicago, LA and Phoenix. barbed wire keeps people from breaking in. and even more so after a plant has closed most operations. it is not a gov site even with the very very old USAF "yard" engine. What this place looks like to me and I haven't watched with sound on mind you. is a disfunct military contractor, you know the ones that build weapons and the like. witch would explain the turnstiles even more the video-grapher used some silly stuff to make it scary looking like a normal everyday civil defense siren (every town has them for tornadoes etc.) a tower with some very old decrepit spot lights for lighting a yard. and the best a cell/radio tower. the big things are exhaust fans for a hot work environment. I should know I ran a 2 giant blast furnaces that had for ALumax (Alcoa) same thing all down my building. But thats for everyone to decide on their own. I would love to go see it in person where are all these others? it would not be set up like this if it was a concentration camp, you wouldn't "see" it at all, if they do exist. looks awfully blair witch to me
Distilled1	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 8:39 PM I know its not gov because its no worn down, military stuff can be old but it would have fresh paint on everything.
Distilled1	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 8:43 PM ok its amtrack, now with sound. I can bet you that those fence have been there for a long time.
Distilled1	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 8:54 PM do some more searching they did this here in Chicago "Glenviwe" IL to be exact its where they do the practices for terrorist attacks, you know the what if we had a dirty bomb go off etc. they actually brought in tons and tons of concrete here to make a colapsed hi rise. and did a mass evacuation and had all the fire, emts, police as well as fema and us military all here for days.actors for triage, all that stuff. Blair Witch
ShadowMom	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 8:59 PM And the materials she showed could just be there for storage, because they have to be somewhere... A factory is like a foreign country to me, I've never even been in one. But even from Miami, land of the I-got-my-gun-you-better-have-yours, all that barbed wire is some scary shit. Down here it draws attention--like you must have something in there worth stealing.
Distilled1	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 9:05 PM yeah, I would like to go check this place out if anyone knows where in beach grove IND it is let me know I am only a few Hours from Indianapolis. I dig checking out stuff like this and I would love to see what dome of the little signs say! like maybe radiation poisoning... and a the "...and this tower would make a perfect place to stand guard" yeah no cover in the Midwest its cold here 3/4 of the year
ShadowMom	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 9:20 PM The video doesn't really say where... and you'd think they'd like lots of people to check it out, wouldn't you?
GeneHilbert	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 10:19 PM Why don't you paranoid little shit heads go live in North Korea, China, Somalia, Russia, Rwanda, Venezuela, Sudan, Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Mexico, Congo, etc........ I’m sick of listening to you lame spoiled little fucks bash America….. Wake the Fuck Up…..
LegoBreaks	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 10:42 PM man you sure as is angry about people being awake about whats going on, have you ever examined yourself and wondered why that is? Its people like you that stick hard to the propaganda that is spread, the politicians would love to lick your arse in return. If it wasn't for people like you, I'm sure we would of globally woken up to the truth already. Instead angry people going round helping spread the lies, what are you getting out of it in return? Ps don't take it as 'American bashing', all the goverments are in on the New world order.
AceHenshawIII	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 10:47 PM funny how people complain about this and that with America, New Order this, conspiracy that... but toss their asses in a rundown 3rd world country and they will be begging to go back to the land of the free, home of the brave. some of you people really make it feel like you have it so bad here, or any UN country. why cant ya just live in peace, just dont get it lol.
LegoBreaks	Date: December 18, 2006 @ 11:03 PM yep live in ignorant peace if you want ..... for now anyway
imemine	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 12:17 AM This thread needs some whiskey!
Opossum	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 12:38 AM New World Order indeed. I'm too old for this nonsense. Kids.
Opossum	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 12:49 AM But then, what do I know? I'm supposed to be extinct.
AceHenshawIII	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 12:52 AM well i'd rather live in peace instead of constantly waiting for a New World Order to happen.
LegoBreaks	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 1:01 AM which i think is really important to do. It is wrong however to live in ignorant peace, helping to spread lies and ducking your head in the sand. If you live in peace spreading love as jesus did, you are following the right path. If it becomes a question between lying for short term 'peace' or making a stand for truth, for long term peace. I'm choosing to fight for the truth.
DrowningBetty	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 1:06 AM who's spreading lies? for all we know the ones complaining about the future in a new order are the ones lying just to get attention.
Opossum	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 1:26 AM On 18th Dec 2008, GeneHilbert said: Why don't you paranoid little shit heads go live in North Korea, China, Somalia, Russia, Rwanda, Venezuela, Sudan, Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Mexico, Congo, etc........ I’m sick of listening to you lame spoiled little fucks bash America….. Wake the Fuck Up….. You know, I haven't lived in America for about 10 years now. Have so many there really gone as crazy as they sound? Seriously.
Opossum	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 1:44 AM But then again, if I had stayed living deep in a cypress swamp all my life, had never went to a different town, had never met a person from another country or lived or been to other countries, or think I knew everything there was to know at age ten, who knows what I'd believe (about other areas of the world) at this point?
ChillinBuzz	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 8:06 AM I guess it's too much to ask for a straight answer from a government anymore, as it is to have a balanced or even a heated debate without someone resorting to insults because someone's view of the government is different... it's not Anti-American at all, if we were then why would we even bother conversing with each other on an American based site? And you don't have to read "propaganda" to see how fucked up things are there... seriously. Seems that if you have the capacity to think beyond the brainwashing of any government, any media or anyone who force feeds you bullshit, you must be paranoid... Plenty of countries are seen to be Anti-American... you should do a better read up on their history... of course, you have to be a paranoid shithead to believe they had a history before the US governments meddled in theirs... Which always poses a question in my mind: Who is the more foolish - the fool or the fools who follow him? .
RocShaman	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 8:23 AM I posted this as a curiosity and I'm certainly not bashing America, which I love with all my heart and would be willing to fight and die for. But I do find this to be interesting and if it's indeed true, why are there so many of these "camps" around and why isn't there anything going on in them yet. Such as factory work or whatever. Why are they patrolled and in a free society, why do they seem to be so secretive about them. Here are a few more pics from another "camp": http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html I do know our forefathers warned us to be ever vigilant or we would eventually lose our freedom. So, I just want to know what they're all about. Should be my right as a citizen of a free society.
RocShaman	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 8:25 AM By the way, the "fence" around that particular site doesn't look like any I've ever seen around a factory or train yard. And those do look a lot like guard towers to me.
RocShaman	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 8:31 AM http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps1.htm
Opossum	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 8:58 AM Their message board (linked on that page) doesn't seem to be working. Perhaps it was spammed out.
Opossum	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 9:03 AM "The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people." Uh... What?
Opossum	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 9:28 AM That's odd, some of the addresses for these concentration camps seem to be in conflict with what I see on terraserver and Google Earth (even in terms of land layout). Oh well. I know some of these maps are just slightly older, but how does one make an entire residentual area vanish and replace it with train tracks and long lines of fences without it being major news?
ChillinBuzz	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 10:49 AM hmm... block the news?
zedsalt	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 10:55 AM Reading through this thread, I couldn't help but think, "Dear God, how did we ever get to a point where the atmosphere in America was such that perfectly reasonable people are throwing around a phrase like 'American concentration camps'?!?". Then I reread Hilbert's posts, and it all made sense.
Distilled1	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 12:15 PM I know some of these maps are just slightly older, but how does one make an entire residentual area vanish and replace it with train tracks and long lines of fences.... see it takes real research... Remeber kids its the super information highway, but that dose not mean the information you find on it is truth.
Opossum	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 12:21 PM Actually, from what I've seen and heard, REAL government sites (well, a few of them) can't be seen via terraserver at all. I guess it would cost too much to hire people to edit all the details. Are those really shrubs and old junked cars, or is there something more sinister lurking below?
Distilled1	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 12:28 PM you can see them they are greyed out like look at Las vegas all the buildings are grey. Fort polk LA is one thats kinda pixelated on google earth. (I love that program) another thing that happens is the terraserve will not allow a zoom. but thats why I ask for where this IND one is I will go break in and check it out for everyone oh no I will be the first to be burned in the exaust fan furnace Now, Opossum quit scaring everyone
Opossum	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 12:37 PM It's funny how you can make pentagrams, swastikas, and "owl shapes" out of some areas near Washington, but then, there are so many points and aligned intersections, you could make a detailed image of Bugs Bunny or just about anything. People see what they will.
Opossum	Date: December 19, 2006 @ 12:39 PM The funniest was that "pentagram points to" business. There are five points, how do they know which point is really doing the pointing, haha.
imemine	Date: December 20, 2006 @ 12:22 AM I seldom agree with Gene politically but come on folks! This is bullshit! Did you guys read what the poster of the video said about “researching” the AGA Gas cylinder? They’re a utility---and supplier of natural gas ----now called Linde Gas! http://www.agagas.com/ They DO NOT make asphyxiation type gases as stated by the poster of the video. “AGA GAS Inc. Sells mostly asphyxiation type gases...you can verify this by doing a search via dogpile for AGA GAS Inc.” The facility that you see in the video is a former Amtrak warehouse! Would you also believe that the word gullible is not even in the dictionary and thus not a word? How ‘bout we get the fuck out of Iraq! Write your state senators and representatives and tell them to cut the funding for this insane war instead of wasting your time on this! IT’S A FREAKING DESTRACTION! For the record---I wouldn’t mention this to them in the letter! We’ll keep it our little secret, okay?
freddemillio	Date: December 20, 2006 @ 7:49 AM While the scenes in those videos and photos have a high probability of being bullshit, and while many of the comments and conclusions are also likely to be bullshit, I believe it still remains true that the US government has made concrete plans in case it chooses to imprison large numbers of people (US citizens or not). This is not such a far-out thought as the US has already done such a thing during WW II when it interned Japanese-Americans. The public record does appear to sustain the idea that preparations have been made by the US government to imprison people if and when it deems that martial law is a necessity. Really, the only place that conjecture and conspiracy-theory-thinking would come into play is in discussing what would trigger such a decision.
freddemillio	Date: December 20, 2006 @ 7:50 AM The US government is undoubtedly not the only government to have made such plans.
zedsalt	Date: December 20, 2006 @ 10:55 AM one of the reasons the founding fathers wanted to ensure that the government never had more guns than the citizenry
Distilled1	Date: December 20, 2006 @ 11:45 AM its an operating Amtrak facility again. yes now there are a bunch of Blue locomotives and passenger cars on the tracks in this train YARD. oh wait I know those locomotives are movable people furnaces right?
Distilled1	Date: December 20, 2006 @ 11:48 AM oh yes there are "prisons" all over the southwest RocShamn they are there for mass influx of immigrants and have been there for many years. you know how America has an illegal immigration problem? hell in fact Maricopa County AZ county Jail looks just like those right in the desert in tents. its a work farm a real prison like they should be.
RocShaman	Date: December 21, 2006 @ 7:08 AM Well, for the record I never said they were for any particular purpose. The point is I'm not sure what they are for, but I am curious. Personally I think it ought to be a matter of public record what they are for, especially if they use my tax dollars to build or maintain these sites. If they are for the illegals invading our country, I'm all for it.