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Legal In Canada? Well, Sort Of...

Woof	Date: June 12, 2004 @ 3:31 AM So I was looking up the facts on Canada's policies towards P2P, and I found a couple of things rather interesting... Yes, it's legal in Canada to download music using p2p... but it's ILLEGAL in Canada, by the same decision, to UPLOAD music... It seems the Canadian court felt that individuals did indeed have the right to "make a copy for personal use", and didn't feel that was punishible, but making the actual files available for others to download there, still seems to be criminal, and I suppose that, if somebody wanted to prosecute folks like the RIAA is doing now, here in the US, it's probably work about the same there, as it did here. Just thought I'd mention it so everybody knew exactly what was going down... hope it helps...
jmweirick	Date: June 13, 2004 @ 4:53 PM tehnically, it's legal to download in the USA also, just not upload, but it's much harder to find that out. So download like crazy, and upload too, they can't prove it.
mtekk	Date: June 14, 2004 @ 6:33 PM p2p the technology is legal, how you use it may not be. that said, you can share any music content on DMusic on p2p network becasue it's legal, we have permission from Leflaw and all the artists. downloading DMusic content off of p2p networks is 10000000% legal and a great thing to do because it lowers the ammount of stress on the DMusic servers.
woodhead	Date: June 20, 2004 @ 8:35 PM if the RIAA send you a letter for"uploading of downloadin" tell them to prove it, they cant, so dont be afraid of the bully tatctics that they use.
jmweirick	Date: June 21, 2004 @ 7:52 AM I should amend my last message, it's only illegal to upload if you exceed $1,000 in a 180 day period. And they can't prove that through any legal means.
OneManKlann	Date: September 18, 2004 @ 1:49 PM The RIAA cant do you anything,they cant prove it. BTW:around here,in Holland,Kazaa has been proven legal
shadowself	Date: September 28, 2004 @ 4:22 PM Whoever says that they cannot prove it is WAY wrong. Only you have the IP address that you're using when you transfer music, and if your ISP is legally forced to find out who was using a certain IP at a certain time, they can easily. I work at an ISP and when we are approached by software companies and production companies with complaints, we are able to find out exactly who it was in seconds. Mind you, we don't release this info to the company who complains.
jmweirick	Date: October 10, 2004 @ 5:26 PM Ok, but think about it. The only way that they can get you on anything is if they know for sure that you have uploaded $1000 dollars worth of music in a 180 day period. Unless my ISP is logging way too much info they can't tell them that for sure. And even if they check out your P2P client, most don't say how long it took you to upload the music if it even tells how much you uploaded. And all that info is very easily cleared from your hard drive. So, as I said, they can't prove anything.
StuBu	Date: October 17, 2004 @ 4:27 AM I am a canadian. I'd have to say the laws are pretty relaxed in Canada, for now. I haven't heard of any serious legal steps that have been made to prevent the sharing of music on the P2P networks. I've heard of a rule where you can download a song, as long as you delete it within a few days or so. This rule sounds fair.
sinai	Date: October 28, 2004 @ 10:04 PM its illegal as hell here i still don't give a shit
daft-desert	Date: December 10, 2004 @ 9:21 PM in Canada People and the gouvermetn kepp saying to share this and that im guessing music is there.. PS: i live in toronto,ontario,canada
willyboy49	Date: December 28, 2004 @ 10:55 PM has anyone heard about the copyright infringemet case against kazaa?? They allegedly stole the code that their software is based on.... hmmm, this P2P stuff sounds like "honour amongst thieves". I also read a post that suggests that 'caring is sharing'... sure it is, IF it's your's (copyright) to share that is... and yet another post about wanting to be 'judged' by their peers... (peer to peer peers). I can easily imagine a room full of psychiatric patients who vote to assess themselves in the name of freedom... they might attain that freedom.. but would still have the psychiatric condition... imagine criminals in a prison being allowed to have parole board hearings by their peers... now that would be interesting. Whichever way one wants to rationalise this... theft is theft, and crime is crime.
claire-eclectic	Date: December 28, 2004 @ 11:20 PM so much misinformation, so little time..
willyboy49	Date: December 28, 2004 @ 11:31 PM recent legal case in Canada has judged that copying MP3's to your MP3 player is now illegal (the media can't have a levy attached) and indications are the same for your HDD. so much for being legally allowed to have ONE copy for personal use. It seems our right to freedom of choice has yet another limitation.
willyboy49	Date: December 28, 2004 @ 11:33 PM recent legal case in Canada has judged that copying MP3's to your MP3 player is now illegal (the media can't have a levy attached) and indications are the same for your HDD. so much for being legally allowed to have ONE copy for personal use. It seems our right to freedom of choice has yet another limitation.
willyboy49	Date: December 29, 2004 @ 12:09 AM This isn't difficult to figure out you know... just read the licence agreement... Nuff sed! Sharman Networks Ltd, makers of Kazaa, does not condone activities and actions that infringe the rights of copyright owners. As a Kazaa user, you must agree to abide by the End User License Agreement and it is your responsibility to obey all laws governing copyright in each country.

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