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Pro Tools and XP can it be done well???

djandots	Date: July 5, 2003 @ 10:01 PM Hi there, I'm new to the board. What is up to all. I've just bought a new PC, running XP -- specs are as follows: Dell 2.8 Ghz 120GB storage 512MB DDR SDRAM Nvidia Geforce4 video card stock sound card (crap) i bought the stock sound card because i plan to upgrade it later to a card that is good for gaming. Anyway the main question is this: I plan to buy the Mbox and i want to know if it is possible to run Protools on a system similar to mine (keeping in mind i run on XP) very well. Is XP stable enough to handle Protools. Ive heard that it is not.
smartazz	Date: July 8, 2003 @ 5:51 PM It's pretty stable with the Mbox...If you're thinking about a 001 or 002 it may not be as stable. but the Mbox Spec is for XP. I run it and it works pretty well it'll depend a lot on whether you have a separate hardrive to process audio on. PT doesn't like runnung the app and storing the audio on the same drive.
djandots	Date: July 8, 2003 @ 8:04 PM ah thanks for the advice. I was thinking about buying a separate drive to store the files on. Does it matter what kind of external hard drive i use? does it have to be for 'music editing' or something? thanks for the response my man.
djandots	Date: July 8, 2003 @ 8:09 PM One more question...is the 512MB RAM enough? I'm willing to upgrade if I have to.
yeshu2k	Date: July 9, 2003 @ 2:06 AM " id="53164">Just out of curiosity, why are you even bothering with ProTools. Especialy on an XP Machine. While I think protools is cool if you have a mac and are running some real killer audio interfaces with multiple in/outs, it doesn't compare to SX or Nuendo. I guess the only way I could see it is if you were just recording audio and that's it. ProTools midi functionality has always sucked, their virtual instrument support is substandard compared to SX and Nuendo and the audio engine, whether on PC or Mac sounds no better than a good top of the line digital audio interface, or even mid grade one, on a XP machine. Protools only has advantage when dealing with established studios in the industry, and that's cause they got so much money rapped up in the environment. That's not to say that PT is a bad product, because it's not. It is a very stable DAW software package, but pound for pound SX and Nuendo kicks it's butt. Yeah, Yeah, I know all you people out there going "no way, you don't know your butt from a whole in the ground". Well lets do a point to point test and see. Check it out, you may be surprised. All my stuff is done on SX and the quality is really good. See for yourself
yeshu2k	Date: July 9, 2003 @ 2:07 AM Oh, yeah, those same studios that have protools are now carrying SX and Nuendo too. Only a matter of time, if PT doesn't slash it's prices and get real
djandots	Date: July 9, 2003 @ 3:32 AM I just heard that Protools was the best and that I should get it. I'm a hip hop dj, all I basically want to do is multitrack recording at high quality. I like that the Mbox is the sound card that Protools will be using. I feel that the sound quality kept by not having to process data in a stock sound card is something I can appreciate about Protools. I do not know anything about SX or Nuendo. I do not know if they also come with their own analog to digital conversion hardware. What do you think is best for my needs? I want a high quality multitrack recorder. I don't see myself using it for anything other than it's basic editing functions, and multitracking. I know very little about sound enhancement, but I may mess with that a bit. Thats about it.
yeshu2k	Date: July 9, 2003 @ 11:55 AM http://www.rolandus.com/products/details.asp?catid=12&subcatid=50&am p;prodid=Studio+Package+Pro Which one would you rather have and it will work seamlessly with any software you use. " id="53199">Aaaaaah, dude if you're a hip hop dude, do not get protools. Anything but protools, and no it is not the best. The only reason people say that is because it has been out, as a audio recording software package, longer than the others. But the others have been out with midi forever and a day. Specially Cubase. Cubase is the reigning king of midi and now with it's audio capabilities it goes well beyond Protools. ProTools only gives you a certain amount tracks, depending on which version you buy, Cubase gives you as many as you want. ProTools is really good for online and offline editing, but so is Cubase and Nuendo. Protools has dedicated hardware and you pretty much can only use those pieces with it. Cubase uses any windows audio interface you have, granted you do want to get a good one. If you buy the 001 or 002 you will only get the protools LE software, that's limited to 32 tracks of audio and 256 midi tracks. The box is $1295 retail. Compare that with SX wich gives you unlimited audio tracks and midi tracks, take a look at this Roland unit that blows that 001 out the water and cost the same http://www.rolandus.com/products/details.asp?catid=12&subcatid=50&am p;prodid=Studio+Package+Pro Which one would you rather have and it will work seamlessly with any software you use.
yeshu2k	Date: July 9, 2003 @ 12:03 PM http://trax.to/blairthemusic Once you get there, look on the left and you will see "tools of the trade". Click that link and you will go to a page that will show you 3 systems that are already pre configured and what you would need. They differ in price and range of devices. " id="53200">You will use sound enhancement once you get into using the stuff. Everyone thinks they just want to do basic stuff, until they get into it and find out all the stuff they can do with it. You don't have to use just consumer grade audio cards. Like I said before, you can use the Roland Studio Pack or you can use a plethora of other pro cards and yes they are just as good. The only thing Protools has over the other manufacturers, when it comes to audio cards, is their 192's, but who the hell needs that anyway, most of those of us doing music ain't even using 96khz. No need to. With Cubase's 32bit True Tape recording and 48khz sample rate, you get a really killer recording in and then it's how well you mix and master. You can go to my site and see several examples of what a Windows based DAW system should look like. Here's the URL http://trax.to/blairthemusic Once you get there, look on the left and you will see "tools of the trade". Click that link and you will go to a page that will show you 3 systems that are already pre configured and what you would need. They differ in price and range of devices.
yeshu2k	Date: July 9, 2003 @ 12:09 PM http://www.midiman.com/products/m-audio/fw410.php" id="53201">This little gem is the direct competition to the MBox in price, but blows it away on performance. http://www.midiman.com/products/m-audio/fw410.php
yeshu2k	Date: July 9, 2003 @ 12:16 PM When you go to my site you can scroll down the left side and see all the links I have to audio card manufacturers, computer hardware/software and outboard gear, so you can do your own research as to what is available on the PC platform
yeshu2k	Date: July 9, 2003 @ 4:00 PM Oh, yeah, you have to enter the site to see the left hand side menu
djandots	Date: July 9, 2003 @ 10:52 PM wow man...your posts have changed everything now...I'm now confused and i don't know what to do. it's going to take time for me to figure out what the hell i'm doing.... i hope that you will answer my future questions.
yeshu2k	Date: July 9, 2003 @ 11:06 PM didn't mean to confuse, but there is a lot to choose from. That's why most people either go with what they hear or get someone who know's about this stuff to set them up. That's why people like me are in business. For you to be able to really descipher all the info and get it right is a massive task. The real issue is how much money do you want to invest in this stuff and get killer final masters out of it. Granted small amounts will get ok masters, but maybe not pro output. But the money you spend on ProTools stuff, with the right person to guide you, you can get well beyond their capabilities while spending maybe, only 2/3rds the cost or less. Here's my email address if you really want to understand this stuff enough to make a profitable decision
yeshu2k	Date: July 9, 2003 @ 11:08 PM Might be a good idea to give you that email address, huh. yeshu@netzero.net I'm on msn messenger too, yeshu2k@hotmail.com, on yahoo as ezkdrm2000@yahoo.com or aim/aol as yeshu2k@aol.com
leflaw	Date: July 14, 2003 @ 12:48 AM How about Digital Performer? Logic?
smartazz	Date: July 29, 2003 @ 5:19 PM Leflaw...for Midi Logic is good I've never used Digital performer but I've heard good things.. actually for midi stuff I use Reason... I know at first glance it's not the most fully loaded midi software out there but you can actually do a lot more with it than most i think and the user interface is unparalleled everything is laid out in a rack as real world gear you can flip the rack and manually rerout anything and every piece of gear is extremely flexible as far as what samples you can load and the control over your sounds. yeshu2k.... do really think cubase is worth it's salt. I never got that program to jive well. I can see your quams with protools. It doesn't stop me from using it. a lot of people are on the nuendo train especially in the consumer market and for good reason it is competitive on most levels with protools. but I don't see a lot of it in the pro market especially commercial studios more and more these days people are building completely protools based studios. and Nuendo is nowhere on the map. I know that being oppossed to protools is like saying damn the man screw the big establishment who sells overpriced gear cause there name says they can.... but it is as good across the board as any other and it is the standard so that's something to think about in the age of information exchange you want to be compatable with everyone else.... for instance I just finished tracking an entire 15 track album in a small extra bedroom. the room sounds like crap and it's almost impossible to mix in. but now I can take my PROTOOLS files to almost any studio to mix and master.... had I used nuendo or something else, that option becomes exceedingly less available.... just trying to pose a different view.
starseven	Date: July 29, 2003 @ 7:03 PM Logic is AWESOME... once you get past the huge learning curve.. i havnt used DP4 yet... but DP3 is ver simple... great for midi...other then the anoyying free midi thing ... it's really great
vonsmear	Date: August 3, 2003 @ 3:53 PM I know lots of people who produce hiphop on Pro Tools, and it works fine. Pro Tool's is designed to do anything. What's the difference between hiphop and acoustic music anyways. You can record keyboards and samplers just like you record microphones. Put Pro Tools in Grid mode, set the tempo, and your set. Plus recording vocals over top is so easy and good sounding.
vonsmear	Date: August 3, 2003 @ 3:56 PM digidesign.com for more info." id="57233">And XP is very stable with Pro Tools too. I would still recomend a mac with OSX, but I know that isn't possible for alot of people. They finally gave XP version 6.1 support recently, also. See digidesign.com for more info.
fatalproduct...	Date: August 31, 2003 @ 12:39 AM WHAT VERSION OF PRO TOOLS WORKS ON XP IVE TRIED LIKE 130947 AND NONE OF EM WORK
vonsmear	Date: September 1, 2003 @ 5:18 AM Ver. 5.3 and above.
BenRebel	Date: December 8, 2003 @ 4:27 PM I'm running Protool 001 on XP with the upgrade they sent me .. but it does'nt work great I have the MACKIE 24/96 HDR with the Protools upgrade and had trouble getting them to talk..
ridd	Date: December 13, 2003 @ 6:24 AM I use string and that old bucket my doctor give me for getting out early I find the string holds a note very well indeed but I still can’t figure out how to get VST’s to work with it, oh well down to the sea front again.

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