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MickeyBreezy	Date: December 25, 2007 @ 1:04 AM why the fuck is it so hard to do everything in reason, i've not been playing w/ it for very long, but jesus, it almost makes no sense at all. then i decide, i'm going to go back to fl studio, and just rewire so i can use the sounds from reason, like the synths and stuff, as i'm recording in the fl sequencer i hear the sounds as i play them, but when i play back, there is no sound, its the wierdest thing. AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Veracohr	Date: December 25, 2007 @ 1:30 AM On 25th Dec 2008, MickeyBreezy said: i've not been playing w/ it for very long, Well there you go. They make the manual for a reason. Every program is different and has a learning curve. You can't expect to magically know how to use a new program. Read the manual.
Opossum	Date: December 25, 2007 @ 1:34 AM Many years ago, when I had my first computer, I typed in del . as I remember having heard it from somewhere...
hantu	Date: December 25, 2007 @ 5:38 AM I think with Reason you can almost expect to magically know how to use it within a relatively short time, at least the foundations of it. But i could just be talking to talk here
BlackMage	Date: December 25, 2007 @ 6:35 AM On 25th Dec 2008, Opossum said: Many years ago, when I had my first computer, I typed in del . as I remember having heard it from somewhere... Alt+F4 for god mode. Good times. I've tried out Reason a bit and it's quite confusing when I'm used to FL but it's a solid software for recording, methinks.
NickSawyer	Date: December 25, 2007 @ 9:26 AM I love reason
leedsquietman	Date: December 25, 2007 @ 2:26 PM Reason is awesome but it is a totally different animal to FL, which is quite a user friendly and hands on program. Reason is a sound canvas that has many creative possibilities with it's crszy routing schemes but for those who have are not keen on plugging in virtual wires then it is quite a limited program. Do what you said - rewire - use the great sounds in NNXT, Subtractor and Malmstrom or make use of rex files in dr. rex or the great rhythms in redrum to enhance what you have in FL. Reason has no audio tracks capability, so requires rewiring or rendering audio tracks and importing them into another DAW. Since I got Ableton Live 7 Suite, I barely use it any more. L7 suite with Sampler, Operator, the 3 new instruments (Analog, Tension and Electric) plus Drum Machines is such an amazing integrated DAW suite and now has sidechaining, 64 bit mix engine, automatable time signatures etc it just rocks. Cubase SX3 and Reason are now only minor players in my orchestra.
NosmoKing	Date: December 25, 2007 @ 2:49 PM I used to use Reason many years ago via rewire through Cubase. The main reason (ha) I did was it has incredibly low overhead and the number of instances of NNXT you can use is just amazing. I did my first orchestral type music using only that just to prove to someone it could be done. One other good thing is for people who program drums, it has a great and very flexible pattern sequencer with a very fine resolution should you require it..something that is lacking in almost every other DAW or standalone application. I would hope that perhaps that someone has done something similar but I am not aware of one yet! If my memory serves me correct you can either plug in the wires or let Reason do it by default. Clearly doing it yourself could provide more flexibilty but not required.
leedsquietman	Date: December 25, 2007 @ 4:40 PM Yes, it automatically plugs in the wires to allow you to use the plugins in a standard way but you can do interesting things when you route things through malmstrom, (almost like a vocoder) or set up chains of effects in a non standard way. The sequencer interface was never my favourite either but the new version (reason 4) has vastly improved it. And the new groove generator and synth is appealing but having splashed so much on the Live 7 suite, I can't see myself updating Reason from 2.5 to 4 anytime soon.
baiko	Date: December 26, 2007 @ 6:47 AM reason...
Mojosnake	Date: December 26, 2007 @ 10:24 AM Reason!!!!!
Veracohr	Date: December 26, 2007 @ 8:35 PM On 25th Dec 2008, leedsquietman said: I can't see myself updating Reason from 2.5 to 4 anytime soon. The new synth Thor is worth it. Since I use Reason only as a softsynth ReWired to DP, that synth was my sole reason for upgrading from 2.5 (I skipped 3, because nothing new in that version was of any use to me.)
jack	Date: December 27, 2007 @ 12:25 AM I've just got my hands on Reason 4, and it's ace. The upgraded sequencer really makes it worthwhile using it as standalone rather than a rewire slave.
jack	Date: December 27, 2007 @ 12:28 AM To add to that, I may be slightly biased since I pretty much exclusively use Reason. It's quite easy to learn but it can seem confusing as it often seems like more work to accomplish things that can be done in two clicks with other programs. That and its sequencer lacks the power of other ones - although with each version it gets better.
MickeyBreezy	Date: December 27, 2007 @ 1:42 AM well, i dont have a manual, since i have the reason adapted that came w/ protools, that makes it tough. also i tried the rewire, but the audio doesnt playback after recording.
leedsquietman	Date: December 27, 2007 @ 6:19 AM I like Reason and still rewire it for some of it's sounds but I have never liked the sequencer (V4 looks a lot better from reviews and screenshots) but now the ABleton Live 7 Suite is my baby. I had Live 6 and loved it but Live 7 takes things to a new echelon. Drum Racks - superb, slice to MIDI - superb, the new instruments (Tension - awesome string modelling, great bowed instruments, zithers, kotos etc; Analog - nice analog modelled synth that beats the pants off Subtractor, Electric - kick ass Rhodes and Wurly EP sounds) not to mention the old Ableton stalwarts of Operator (cool FM and subtractive synth) and Sampler which is very nice. Now with 64 bit mix engine and sidechaining, vastly improved compressor and EQ8 and automatable timing signatures. It's the dogs nuts if you can get used to the Live GUI (which is actually very functional and intuitive once you get used to it) Reason will always have a place in my heart and via Rewire will still pop up occasionally but although I like the look of Thor, I have many superb virtual synth vstis already plus the Live instruments. So don't plan on upgrading unless I win the lotto or something
Veracohr	Date: December 27, 2007 @ 8:22 PM On 27th Dec 2008, MickeyBreezy said: well, i dont have a manual, since i have the reason adapted that came w/ protools, that makes it tough. You should have said that to begin with. I have no idea what Reason Adapted is like. You can get the manual for Reason here: http://www.propellerheads.se/index.cfm I imagine it will still be of some help even if you don't have the full version.
leedsquietman	Date: December 27, 2007 @ 10:47 PM Reason Adapted is pretty much the same as Reason, except it has less plugins and restricts how many tracks you can run at once, this varies depending on manufacturer (I think 8 tracks is common) as Propellerheads tailor the Adapted package depending on the manufacturer.
NickSawyer	Date: January 22, 2008 @ 11:31 AM I still love reason
Mojosnake	Date: January 22, 2008 @ 11:35 AM i just got reason 4.0 and it's freakin AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! i love it so much i havent played my guitar in weeks!!! the THOR synth is so phat and phat and best of all semi modular and the new sequencer is very advanced more like a real sequencer...
leedsquietman	Date: January 25, 2008 @ 2:38 AM Not bad - but doesn't stack up to the Ableton Live Suite for me, and the sequencer is ... err, like a sequencer should be - finally. Although I've gotta say that Thor and the new groovenator are decent adds. I'm still on Reason 2.5 because I felt that 3 didn't offer enough (combis were about the only major thing to get excited about) and then I discovered Live 6 and now the ass kicking Live 7 Suite, for my workflow and needs it's in a different, higher league by itself.
Mojosnake	Date: January 25, 2008 @ 11:40 PM hey, when your using garageband like i am .... any sequencer is more advanced.... the sequencer in reason 4 is a godsend
silentpair	Date: January 30, 2008 @ 8:30 PM i'm not big on reason, but i'm not big on software in general. i do like ableton, though...nuendo has a big learning curve but it isn't much harder than cubase and the payoffs are worth it. good luck.
AdamsGod	Date: March 9, 2008 @ 5:16 AM reading all these posts.. I dont understand what people are having a hard time with. I find reason to be super user friendly.. if you can use fruityloops (spawn of satan software)then you can easily learn to use reason. 2 nerw songs uploaded on my page both songs were done with reason and sonar4
leedsquietman	Date: March 9, 2008 @ 6:46 AM It's not that difficult to use, certainly less so than is hyped (everything takes a bit of time to learn, read the manual) but Fruity Loops is a more accessible software for the beginner, IMHO. Reason is decent software but until Reason 4 came out, it had been getting a bit stale, I haven't upgraded since 2.5. The sequencer arrangement view was definately not as good as it could be and reason 3 did not imptove it. In the meantime, I discovered Ableton Live 6 and now 7 Suite. The basic package has less sound generation modules but the Suite is amazing and the workflow in session view and it's arrangement view layout are much more geared to how I work. Might look at upgrading to Reason 4 with the new Thor synth, arpeggiator, groove editing and much better sequencer arrangement view. Then again, I could buy some vstis that would do a lot too.
vilifiend	Date: August 7, 2008 @ 2:17 PM i like it.... though i hate the sequencer. i mean i really hate it. kills my eyes.
tsand20175	Date: August 7, 2008 @ 2:53 PM Reason 4 rocks...........
vilifiend	Date: August 8, 2008 @ 10:33 AM I hope I will get used to it. I really like the overall quality... but man that sequencer just kills me. I used to be a FL user for like 6 years so you could imagine how the sequencer in reason would probably be straining. I don't have my keyboard with me right now so programming on a grid I can barely see pretty much drains me.
LZith	Date: August 9, 2008 @ 8:04 AM i swear , the first time I tested it, I just stayd in the program for like 5 min, after that uninstall. I Tell you FL Studio is the best studio ever made.. Powerfull & Easy to use!!!
elektronz	Date: August 9, 2008 @ 8:09 AM ive got reason 3 ,,not tried it yet as im a fl studio bod at the min
NickSawyer	Date: August 10, 2008 @ 9:08 AM Gotta say... I love my reason 4
KV-	Date: August 20, 2008 @ 9:22 AM I used to use Reason 2, at the time I could knock tunes out of it without a thought, then a mate introduced me too FL and I have used that since. I actually recently looked at Reason again and can`t figure it out any more lol, I`ll stick with FL which is logical, simple and just great
leedsquietman	Date: August 20, 2008 @ 10:18 AM The sequencer in Reason 4 is much improved compared to before. It was a big weakness before but is now much more similar to other linear DAWs, especially the automation features. BUt of course, everyone should use what they are comfortable with, but I have used Cubase SX, Logic Pro 7, Reason 2.5, Ableton Live 6 (and now Live 7 Suite) and (going back several years), Vegas and Sonar. I found value in all of these applications. Sometimes it is worth persisting with software, because no two programs ever function the same way, some are more naturally intuitive, but sometimes the most intuitive (i.e. FL) programs also are more limiting. If you are not a natural manual reader, it makes a transition harder but many programs come with good tutorials now, the tutorials in Cubase and Ableton Live are both especially good. So my advice is, don't limit your knowledge and experience to one app. In many studios, if you want to get work in studios, you would be expected to know things like ProTools, Logic, Cubase, Sonar, and possibly Reason, Live, Digital Performer, ACID and FL or at least be willing to do courses to learn.