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Sine

egac	Date: August 4, 2005 @ 1:10 PM I drew a sine wave. How do I make a sound?
BlackMage	Date: August 4, 2005 @ 1:24 PM Loop it?
egac	Date: August 4, 2005 @ 4:40 PM No, I meant I DREW a sine wave. http://egac.dmusic.net/pictures?detail=1&picid=44780 I want to use my own sine wave, not body's elses. Any ideas? My newfound artistic integrity prevents me from using prefabricated waveforms.
Cryxan	Date: August 4, 2005 @ 4:47 PM Isn't that a cosine? Sine begins at [0,0].
egac	Date: August 4, 2005 @ 5:09 PM Gosh, you're right. Of course, they sound the same, unless there are phasing things going on, which. Cryxan, you are a synthesis genius.
Cryxan	Date: August 5, 2005 @ 4:55 AM Wow. I'm amazed that my comment was actually useful.
Veracohr	Date: August 6, 2005 @ 12:12 AM Wait, did you actually draw a wave in a graphics program and expect to be able to convert that image into sound? Sorry, it doesn't work that way. If you want to be able do design your own waveform, you need to learn some electronics design and/or computer programming.
egac	Date: August 6, 2005 @ 12:51 AM No stupid, I drew it with a crayon. I WILL make it work!
imemine	Date: August 6, 2005 @ 1:23 AM "No stupid".... .......a crayon
DaveWL	Date: August 6, 2005 @ 5:35 PM I think You need to turn it into a patch that you can play in a synthesiser. Try drawing a line over the trough on the left hand side and colouring it in with a black felt tip pen. Then you will have something resembling an eye patch, maybe draw a good eye on the right hand side ...ermm then I'm not sure what you do..maybe draw a keyboard too.
hueseph	Date: August 7, 2005 @ 4:18 AM "I want to use my own sine wave, not body's elses. Any ideas? My newfound artistic integrity prevents me from using prefabricated waveforms." I don't understand. Aside from adding complimentary harmonic waves, as sine wave is a sine wave is a sine wave. The only difference between them is frequency. What difference does it make if you use yours or the one that is standardly generated from a program or a tuner for that matter?
hueseph	Date: August 7, 2005 @ 4:25 AM Is this a stab at people who seek originality for the sake of originality? Or....I really don't understand because sine waves do not exist in nature. They can only be generated electronically. So in essence: unless you are willing to take the time to design and build your own sine wave generator (an oscilator) then you will have to live with the sine wave generators that exist. There are programs out there though, that will alow you to design your own sounds. Some more complicated than others but the simplest would be an FM modulator. The more complicated ones actually allow you to "cherry pick" your frequencies and build tones and timbres from scratch.
freddemillio	Date: August 7, 2005 @ 5:00 AM Dear nhoj egac, I think that you have not received much help on your request. At least not the kind of help that you are seeking. I think that I might have a suggestion that is going to be slightly more useful to you. The best way to turn the sine wave that you drew with a crayon on a piece of paper into a sound it to light it on fire and then swallow it as it is burning. I am reasonably sure that this sine wave will produce a sound using this method.
egac	Date: August 7, 2005 @ 11:32 AM thank you mr. millio. this is certainly ONE way to extract a sound from said sine wave. i programmed myself to dream about this conundrum last light and I believe that an alternative solution may be on the horizon. it involves a video camera and a can of beets.
freddemillio	Date: August 7, 2005 @ 11:34 AM Will those beets be hot beets fresh from the pressure cooker or will you let them cool down first in the fridge? It could make a difference, no ?
egac	Date: August 7, 2005 @ 11:37 AM too early to tell at this point. if you fancy beets, fancy beets in fact, i have a recipe for a fine beet soup posted in my journal. i will keep you posted as per my progress.
freddemillio	Date: August 7, 2005 @ 12:38 PM I have seen the borscht recipe and I must say that it appears tasty .
egac	Date: August 7, 2005 @ 1:37 PM thank you hueseph for your input. the idea is that a hand-drawn (pseudo) sine wave would sound more textured and weird than a mathematically perfect sine wave.
Snoogans775	Date: August 12, 2005 @ 4:36 AM I say you take that file, and open it in all the different raw media synthesis options that you can do in Cool Edit Pro, I turned my copy of Dope Wars into a song with that. Or you hire a bunch of monkeys to synthesize that wave using some german engineering.
egac	Date: August 12, 2005 @ 12:53 PM german monkey engineering is where its at!
Snoogans775	Date: August 12, 2005 @ 11:34 PM who do you think designed kratwerk?
egac	Date: August 12, 2005 @ 11:36 PM hmmmmmmmmmmm, volkswagan?
Cowboy666	Date: August 13, 2005 @ 12:48 AM I’m drawing a urine stream from your page. How does that work?
zedsalt	Date: August 13, 2005 @ 12:33 PM I'm not sure whether to recommend a computer repairman or a urologist, Cowboy... Remember, Egac, that it was the Nazis who started Volkswagen, but the Hippies who took it over. And I think it's important to distinguish between the engineering of German Monkeys (which is o.k. in my book; if they have a talent for engineering, let's use it) and forcing monkeys to use German engineering (which seems cruel to me).
freddemillio	Date: August 13, 2005 @ 6:01 PM As long as the monkeys can piss as much as they want to it is still ethically acceptable.
monkvolcano	Date: August 16, 2005 @ 4:06 AM so where can i get the volkswagon german monkey piss sine wave generator? it sounds so cool.. the sonic possibilities are stagerring.. but we have to make sure the animal rights folks don't find out at all costs.. from now on we're going to have to organize this with dmusic notes!! hell.. i think we'll have to meet in person.. the dnotes could be intercepted by rival car company monkeys.. this is going to be harder than i thought..
zedsalt	Date: August 16, 2005 @ 12:42 PM That's right: NEVER put anything in an internet communication that you wouldn't want to broadcast! Be careful with the face-to-face meetings, too. A court case in the early '80s established that no one in America has the right to "reasonably expect" that they are NOT being listened to using a parabolic mic.
kingo	Date: August 16, 2005 @ 12:46 PM Seems about right to me. In fact I think that could probably be updated, no one SHOULD reasonably expect any kind of privacy whatever. Them satellites have pow'rful zoom lenses. I saw it on Google!
egac	Date: August 17, 2005 @ 12:09 AM OK all you naysayers stop that saying of nay! I have sined the uncrayonable, played the undrawable, digitized the notunanalogable. It's right, I made my crayon-drawn sine waves into sounds, used them in some samplers with filters and now have a song to prove it. It's called medium transfer on my page. Achoo!
imemine	Date: August 17, 2005 @ 12:33 AM Absolutely brilliant! If it's real! How did you do it? Does it sound different in marker or perhaps pencil? How ‘bout spray paint or watercolors? I HAVE SO MANY Que STIOnS! :crayon:
egac	Date: August 17, 2005 @ 12:44 AM i also uploaded the samples you can use them they are licensed CC attribution-noncommercial enjoy. i have only tried crayons so far. i did it by analyzing the images with my new secret patented technique involving opplos ond bononos.
imemine	Date: August 17, 2005 @ 12:48 AM AKA-----BULLSHIT!
egac	Date: August 17, 2005 @ 1:35 AM if you do not are a blieveer they are now pictures of them on my user page so you can see the drawing and the waveform this was done in audobe adition.
zedsalt	Date: August 17, 2005 @ 12:31 PM There was a lawyer down in Indy, or near Indy, who was suffering from some catastrophic, degenerative disease. He had an underground growroom that he accessed from a tunnel. They busted him on a warrant isssued on the basis of evidence gathered by a helicopter with heat-sensing equipment. An Indy cop proudly proclaimed, "Not only can we tell when you're on the toilet, we can tell how big each turd is and know the moment it hits the water!" He was just beaming. Don't ya hate a smug fascist? Oh, and congratulations, Egac.
Snoogans775	Date: August 19, 2005 @ 3:43 AM this thread is a testament to the greatness of artistry, and egac for that matter, all you who mocked!
imemine	Date: August 19, 2005 @ 1:39 PM What?
imemine	Date: April 11, 2007 @ 10:52 PM What ever happened to this dude?
ShadowMom	Date: April 12, 2007 @ 12:44 AM I think he was recalled.
kingo	Date: April 12, 2007 @ 9:11 AM Someone get a new can, we are needing the likes of Egac here again. Damn noodling acastrophers.
evansorchid	Date: April 12, 2007 @ 10:39 AM That's how I make a wave sign.
zedsalt	Date: April 12, 2007 @ 10:46 AM Sine, sine, everywhere a sine...
egac	Date: September 1, 2007 @ 9:39 AM
ChillinBuzz	Date: September 1, 2007 @ 11:45 AM