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farleft	Date: August 19, 2006 @ 8:52 AM hey guys a question, whenever i record my voice over a track it sounds totally alienated. the guitars will mix together well but how do i achieve the voice being submerged into the music (like a professional recording) so it sounds like im actually singing with the guitars behind me. im using cool edit pro 2.0 btw thanx
Opossum	Date: August 19, 2006 @ 10:12 AM Not sure exactly what you mean, but this page may help: http://www.trinitysoundcompany.com/eq.html Compression may also be an issue, and using different types of reverb to add warmth (and perhaps a subtle reverb over the whole track). I use Wavelab myself, and there are endless plug-ins you can use.
pog	Date: August 19, 2006 @ 10:51 AM There's so many variables here... it's often about looking at what you're working with, and how it fits into the big picture. If you are having a problem with the vocals standing out too much, then it sounds like it's too loud in the mix, but it could also be because it's cutting through too much. You really should try a graphic equaliser in the mix and figure out how it should sound in the mix... if you want it to get absorbed into the mix, then maybe a "happy" setting is what you're after with a scooped midrange and the tops and bottom frequencies boosted... this is because the bass, drums and guitars tend to be busier in these frequencies. If you want it to cut through the mix more, then you would work with a "sad" e.q. setting. Also, if you want it to sound warmer in the mix, the you could add low mids and/or bass. A compressor could be added, but that tends to take a lot of expression out of a track, so should always be treated with respect. Of course, these are just IMHO and should be taken with a grain of salt, but I hope this is of some use to you.
thedaybreakband	Date: January 28, 2007 @ 8:47 PM if you're not running the mic through a preamp that could make it sound "alienated" as you've described. a mic w/o a preamp will oftentimes not have enough emphasis on the low and mid ranges, leading it to sound "tinny" and detatched
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: January 28, 2007 @ 11:08 PM a) getting as good quality audio recording from a good mic/preamp as you can, use a mic screen to cut down on sibilances and most important - the vocal performance, get it as tight and correct as you can, record different takes (you can edit/comp them together later) b) judicious use of compression (try Voxengo's voxformer plug-in, it can sometimes get awesome results) http://www.voxengo.com/product/voxformer/ c) EQ - dip your instruments at around 400 Khz a bit to allow more room for the vocal, add a little at 3-4 Khz for some extra shine (this is generalized information and isn't a magic button fix, these parameters might need to be changed) d) record your lead vocals in mono, they will center better in your stereo mix and try not to have too many instruments panned in the same space to avoid frequency fighting mush. e) effects processing - 'doubling effects', reverb, delays, subtle chorusing etc could enhance your mix but once again, no magic buttons, you'll need to try them out and use only the minimum required to improve your mix, a lot of people go crazy and ott with effects processing and the effects become the focl point rather than the vocals... Tweakheadz is a good website for basic information explained in a clear manner http://www.tweakheadz.com/how_to_record_vocals.htm
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: January 28, 2007 @ 11:13 PM Oh and the acoustics of the room...plenty of cheap fixes available such as placing blankets / comforters to acoustic foam for spaces with reflection problems and trapping bass etc.
RichLum	Date: March 7, 2007 @ 12:35 AM There's some really good tips on mixing vocals in this KVR thread... http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=168080

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