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Who will the U.S. attack next?

imemine	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 1:10 PM Who has oil?
Distilled1	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 1:22 PM syria
ebarbarella	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 1:26 PM this is so sad
tsand19151	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 1:30 PM new york....according to the votes Bush got there
victorsskull	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 2:08 PM
Pagan	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 2:18 PM My money is on Iran or China.
onewhodreams	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 2:28 PM China it's possible
imemine	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 2:57 PM Boy, we would be SO screwed if we attacked China. They now possess ALL the manufacturing tools and skills to produce anything they want. Our technologies!!! Oh yeah, how ‘bout those 1,284,303,705 ( that’s nearly 1.3 billion ---with a –B-) solders too? Our election was decided on 114,144,864 votes. That’s a difference of 1,170,188,841. There are 294,671,242 people in the U.S. leaving a difference of ONLY 989,632,463 people. We are only out numbered by almost a billion people. Less than one half of the U.S. even voted! There are 6,398,076,546 on this planet. (that we know of) China makes up one sixth of the world population. Big Balls!
povertystricken	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 3:04 PM We need to attack ourselvs, then spend a fortune rebuilding our own infastructure.We need it more than Iraq, Iran, Syria, N.Korea, or China.
imemine	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 3:08 PM I can’t say that I disagree today! Metaphorically speaking of course.
sinai	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 3:31 PM my money is on Iran... having your Congress shouting "Death to America" while your passing legislation to reintroduce uranium enrichment says something about your intentions for said uranium, and it aint fucking electric cars...
povertystricken	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 3:36 PM tritium is where its at anyway, uranium will be for export
fanch-t	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 3:44 PM Iran. Iran. Iran.
fanch-t	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 3:45 PM free thinkers.
Izekial	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 6:12 PM I think America will destroy the West and the East Coasts. Look at the states. Washington, California, Oregon on the west, and all those other tiny states in the east were Kerry supporters. Everything in the middle was red. Justin and I figured out why the Coasts voted Kerry: They'd be the first to get blown up if Bush won. All the states in the middle would have a buffer for attacks. Fun!
onewhodreams	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 6:19 PM Maybe we should just split the states up... you know, Red States and Blue States
povertystricken	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 6:27 PM It is about time for a civil war.
Izekial	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 7:01 PM Yeah, we kicked the shit of those rednecks last time. Maybe they need another beating? This time we should exhile them, though.
sinai	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 7:49 PM you know! i was just talking about this with a friend today, i brought up how it would have been better for the south to have won the civil war. not in any ultra racist way of course, but that if they had we would lose damn near the entire backwards ass bible belt and all the hurricanes and backroads lynchings that come with it. we'd live up here smoking pot, marrying our own sex, and living long fulfilling lives not interrupted by being beheaded by islamic radicalists. they'd prolly have crushed themselves trying to put a ten commandments statue on top of the capitol building a long time ago. "The South will rise again?" i fucking hope so. and i hope we aint dumbass enough to actually fucking fight to have you back afterwards. (author's note...this message is a very general, well, generalization of millions of people, most of whom ive never met, obviously not all the south is god fearing to the point of killing over length of crew cuts bubba gumps, but be real, most of you are. to the rest, i apologize for the inclusion in this rant)
Izekial	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 8:10 PM What the fuck are you talking about? We'd have legalized gay marriages if the South had won? We'd be smoking pot instead of drinking beer? We wouldn't be at war? Looks to me like the South won anyway. We're all a bunch of Christian redneck gun shooting creatures, an amalgam of the South. I'm generalizing too and I'm sorry, but they created this generalization, not us. We stomped your fucking ass (if you're one of those hard core KKK types) because you were trapped in this old world where humans were judged by the color of their skin. That and we were greedy bastards and we wanted your resources. That's one thing we have in common. Greed. America is greedy. Now that I think about it, there isn't much different between the North and the South. The South just has mullets and homophobia. We've got granola bars and you have guns. What the hell am I talking about. Anyway, do you really think we'd all be less homophobic or religious crazy or mellowed out if we all adopted the same mentality as TEXAS? And you want to have another civil war, like seriously. I was just kidding... well, kind of. You guys sure like to start fights.
imemine	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 8:14 PM Guys, you need to get out more! @ both sinai1 and Izekial. Wait----is that Banjo music I hear?
Izekial	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 8:16 PM I'm not a redneck, God dayummit! fucks a sheep
hueseph	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 8:56 PM I imagine the US will soon envelope Canada in order to take control of its water resources and hydro-electric facilities. That way Hollywood can continue with fewer brown outs. Mr. Bush will then impose the draft upon those 10 new northern states that have not yet had the priveledge of serving their new country. Imagine a whole new resource of diposable soldiers in order to invade the rest of the oil bearing planet. We wil have a corporately united world where third world countries, instead of benefiting from their newfound freedom, will be breeding grounds for the working class: undrepaid, overworked neoslaves. The civilized world will benefit even moreso from the prosperity and newfound vigor of modern consumerism. Every other American home will house the president of a newformed company which manufactures new and wondeful products overseas where they can't afford to say no to substandard working conditions and meager pay. Each American household will rest assured that their future has been secured by the broken backs of those unfortunate enought to be born in the wrong country. ....or maybe things will continue on as they always have. I'm sure in some minds this is a turn for a better furture. Congratualations!
DevonPowell	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 10:11 PM Bush will suffer and assasination attempt. I don't know if it will succeed. I think within the next year or 2. As far as going to war with another country...I wouldn't be surprised if someone else attacked us first, seeing as we just elected Mr. "Yippee-cai-ay motherfucker!" to another 4 years in office and pretty much the rest of the world is tossing enough hate at Americans to make James Hetfield look like Shirley Temple.
imemine	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 11:06 PM Careful Devon, these Nazi’s will come looking for you! This is the most Orwellian stuff I have ever seen! That’s a “thought crime” and if your not cautious, they will haul your ass off to the “Ministry of Love”! (If you folks don’t know what I’m talking about, Read George Orwell’s book—“1984”) IT WILL FREAK YOU OUT!
Izekial	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 11:17 PM Ministry of Love? Do you have any idea how cool that sounds? I'm not drunk, either.
imemine	Date: November 3, 2004 @ 11:31 PM Write a song about! I did! It’s called “What Is? on my page if you wanna hear it! READ THE BOOK---1984! Sorry, didn’t mean to be promotional, I’m just passionate about the direction this country is heading!
Izekial	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 12:12 AM I'm listening to it. It sounds really funky and I feel like I can totally pick up on a chick if I wear tight leather pants and say, "Believe in the Ministry of Love, baby." You guys actually know how to play instruments? Um, I think you wandered into the wrong music board. Burn...! Ok, maybe it's just me that doesn't have any talent.
cosmicearthgirl	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 12:13 AM It's an awesome book, and I'd just like to go on record as saying if we're going to do blue states against red states, then I'm gonna have to move. I don't agree with my color!
GTLive	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 12:16 AM 1984 is awesome. I also liked Animal Farm, Mr. Orwell is the bomb. Oh wait, can I say bomb? You must be careful about the language you use. Once on a plane I was advised against greeting my coworker with the phrase "Hi Jack" because of terrorist connotations. My response? "Yassir".
tsand19151	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 12:27 AM China has the fastest growing economy in the world. The U.S. has plans to attack them, not militarily but with General Motors, General Electric, McDonalds, AT&T, Coca Cola, etc.
Izekial	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 12:33 AM "1984 is awesome. I also liked Animal Farm, Mr. Orwell is the bomb. Oh wait, can I say bomb? You must be careful about the language you use. Once on a plane I was advised against greeting my coworker with the phrase "Hi Jack" because of terrorist connotations. My response? "Yassir"." Hahaha! That was fucking awesome.
moam	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 12:39 AM http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/10/con04438.html everybody...go here NOW!!! I fucking HATE bush, here's part of the fucking reason...
imemine	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 12:57 AM Tim, What? Most of General Motors and General Electric are already over seas in manufacturing even though some of the low paying jobs in final assembly are here. A lot of AT&T as well as many other hi tech sort of customer service jobs are increasingly going to India and McDonalds and Coca Cola are right around the corner from a lawsuit similar to “Big Tobacco” I love you man but I don’t buy your argument here! : sidenote: Animal Farm is a great book too!
kyodylee	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 1:00 AM I just hope Osama bin Laden knows the difference between Red States and Blue States.
imemine	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 1:39 AM Now that’ some insight. Don’t think it matters though unfortunately.
Woof	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 1:50 AM Uhhh... the middle class? No wait... that was LAST YEAR... sorry... Oh I got it. The baby boomers ready to retire! Yeah!
GTLive	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 2:19 AM Switzerland! Get those yodeling bastards, they are hiding Osama under a blonde wig! They have WMDs in the cheese! Hey, btw is it just me or do you guys see the following resemblances: Sadaam Hussein - Charles Manson Osama Bin Laden - Howard Stern Has anybody seen these guys in the same place at the same time?
tsand19151	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 5:53 AM imemine, you're right they are already over there. But China recently was awarded "favorite nation status" which basically means US corps can REALLY "attack" China now. But that was not my point. My point was that the US cannot and will not militarily attack China....they have the biggest (tho not the mightiest) army on the planet and more important, there's money to be made there.
billhudson	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 6:34 AM When one looks back at history, folks that do think like myself are Not in a majority. If you look in the 20’s with the labor movement with folks like Mother Jones and the poet Don West and many others who worked so hard in getting folks a fair deal out there. Even in the 30’s when the rich did get richer and the rest let out in the cold. The left was not talking over the country. So the way I look at it is……. I am always asking myself, what do I believe in? So getting to the question, “whose next, I really don’t know but remember Nixon was voted in again and his power did him in. My feeling is Bush and his crowd will add numbers to those of the left. So the green light is given to the big corporation who will keep trashing mother earth for the green back dollar. I will take my place among those at the barricades. Still Pickin' Bill H.
geetarman	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 9:03 AM What happened to Solor Power...
imemine	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 9:38 AM Tim, you are EXACTLY right! Sorry for the misunderstanding! This is part of what I was talking about up there in the seventh post (population wise anyway) U.S. companies have a lot to gain from being in business with China profit wise in this business climate. Remember the old Wal Mart adds where they talked about priding themselves on selling American made goods. Try to find something that’s NOT made in China there now. And it’s not just low cost, low-tech goods being manufactured over seas either. China is in the high tech manufacturing business now, which is the most frightening part of this whole thing. At the onset of WWII, the U.S. was able to build its artillery up rapidly because we were a manufacturing country. We are loosing these facilities and skills and selling them the lowest bidder. We can’t totally blame the corporate fat cats for this though, consumers are herding into places like Wal Mart demanding less expensive disposable goods (I.E. $39 DVD player) and businesses are being reactive to both the consumer and the corporate loopholes set in place by this administration. All I have to say is that if this trend continues, we will all be wearing a blue vest and saying “Welcome to Wal Mart” or wearing one of these cool brown and yellow shirts and asking “would you like fries with that”.
onewhodreams	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 10:15 AM I believe we're heading towards a One World Government. Granted it may be way ahead in the future, but it's inevitable.
imemine	Date: November 4, 2004 @ 10:27 AM One Finger Victory Salute " id="117098">One Finger Victory Salute
tsand19151	Date: November 5, 2004 @ 1:15 AM ...no problem, bro...it's all good. Attacking China would start WWIII. i wonder if Bush knows that......
tsand19151	Date: November 5, 2004 @ 2:00 AM ....oh, that's right, Condoleezza probably told him.......
Woof	Date: November 5, 2004 @ 3:50 AM "For the 110th Congress, confident House Republicans claimed a mandate for their agenda, which includes tax cuts, tort reform and an energy bill that would allow oil drilling in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge." Thought that last bit was interesting...
Woof	Date: November 5, 2004 @ 4:18 AM Ps.. Maybe this is swinging too far off topic... I dunno... but I got to thinking about tort reform after I posted that last bit, and it occurred to me that even though the heart of the case presented to the people in its' defense, is that "frivolous lawsuits" are making quality medical care less available to the public, there's another side to that issue as well... By putting a cap on the amounts awarded in settlements, corporations (including big tobacco) who could be held liable for any number of injuries they inflict on the public, would also be less likely to be sued out of business. On a slightly sillier note, there was all this talk last year about bringing suit against junk food manufacturers as well... they'd be safer, too... and really NEED to be! I mean, where would the average high school grad be able to work these days, if it WASN'T for Mc Donald's and Taco Bell? For that matter, I believe it was also sometime last year, that Bush wanted to reclassify fast food jobs as "manufacturing" positions. That way, statistically, at least, he could tell us that he had "created" all of these new "manufacturing" jobs... anybody else remember that one? America NEEDS fast food! Those jobs are actually supporting families these days... families who lost jobs during the last three years... Of course we also need quality medical care. It's my impression, though, that tort reform accomplishes much more than keeping malpractice insurance costs down for doctors...
sinai	Date: November 5, 2004 @ 7:01 PM well, it is a nice racket they got going though... big tobacco has a market in which they create the supply and the demand, then they get people sick and turn it over to doctors, who also set the supply and the demand. brilliant! they're going to burn in hell for it, but it is brilliant
Thaspian	Date: November 5, 2004 @ 9:20 PM Bush got so much oil from Iraq. Just look at it. Why, the gas prices have been cut in half..
hueseph	Date: November 5, 2004 @ 10:04 PM Well if you consider that the price of oil changes daily and yet we are still using last years oil product, why does the price of gas change daily if it takes several weeks to produce petrolium? In other words, why does the price of oil today affect the price of gas that was produced a week ago? For that matter, why does the price of gas go up during the weekend and down early in the week? Do you think that has anything to do with having more oil? I'd say it has more to do with gauging the general populous because they have no choice but to buy gas from you. Now if only you reds would put some thought into your arguements you might find your face turning blue. The real money however is in the war itself. All of George W's buddies that manufacture weapons and military vehicles are raking it in right now. Yes, at the cost of some soldiers lives but mostly at the cost of pagan civilians lives. As homer saimpson would say "It's funny 'cause it didn't happen to me." I'm sorry I keep forgeting that we're dealing with "culturally conservative" people here. Isn't it funny tho that red happens to be the colour of the most feared enemy of freedom in the Eighties? Good fortune comrade.
povertystricken	Date: November 5, 2004 @ 10:06 PM Back in the U.S.S.A.
imemine	Date: November 5, 2004 @ 10:36 PM @ Thaspian. Halliburton
Thaspian	Date: November 6, 2004 @ 12:11 PM I'm talking about the present.
AgentMGD	Date: November 6, 2004 @ 5:18 PM depends who is next on list to have democracy forced down their throats in the middle east kiss
imemine	Date: November 6, 2004 @ 5:29 PM Yup! They all must convert to Christianity too!
Thaspian	Date: November 6, 2004 @ 5:50 PM even though many of the marines are atheist and agnostic, I'm sure they're more than willing to force a religion on the innocent of a country they're in. I suppose they get the time to do it inbetween the firefights and battles, right?
EmpireDay3	Date: November 6, 2004 @ 7:08 PM
imemine	Date: November 6, 2004 @ 7:21 PM @ empireday3!!!!!!
hueseph	Date: November 6, 2004 @ 7:50 PM "Date: November 6, 2004 @ 12:11 PM I'm talking about the present." Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't sure for a second there. Nice comeback by the way. Next time I'll throw a little lower so you can catch it.
biggles1	Date: November 7, 2004 @ 3:13 PM Is it just me or is greorge bush trying to make up for the mistakes of the past by claiming to be heading for bin laden, when in fact the us payed for bin laden to have his tunnels built, buy his weapons,pay his staff and now that they hit back at the heart of the original funders such is feeling a little bad!!! and why is bin laden in iraq? or indeed why did bush feel the need to go against the un and attack a dictator who has nothing to do with america other than his father went to war there years ago and got booted back out! oh yeah it must be the OIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2step-4eva	Date: November 8, 2004 @ 1:51 PM bush actually believes he was appointed by god and that it is right to go to war because his instincts, or "god" is telling him to do it. and his supporters don't know why they are at war other than that bush thinks it is right... honestly it is worrying to think that this guy is the most powerful man in the world, i dont have a clue why my country's prime minister is stuck so far up this idiot cowboy's arse and i am amazed blair is still in office, britain is supposed 2 be a civilised nation
koiulpoi	Date: November 15, 2004 @ 9:01 PM Duh everyone. Bush went to war to get better ratings, and get things passed. Gay marriage. We'll see more. He 'has a mandate' from 51%.
imemine	Date: November 15, 2004 @ 11:37 PM Mandate. -----------
mtbatol	Date: November 18, 2004 @ 2:10 AM Dammit... if it wasn't for me encouraging my fellow black people over in Ohio to vote for Mr T (whose gold chains is a sign of financial stability & is tough on terrorism) then they would've voted for Kerry to take over the office instead Well... at least only 600,00 swung their votes.. and kerry lost by.. umm.. uh oh.. runs for his life and hides
AgentMGD	Date: November 21, 2004 @ 12:48 PM heard rumor votes in ohio will be recounted again and your spy plane over russian border could have constituted a prelude to war the united states is nearly bankrupt how could your president possibly begin another war without financially burdening the people kiss
sinai	Date: November 21, 2004 @ 11:31 PM but hey, you get to keep your assualt rifles now, which is good, you'll need them when you lose your job and have to hunt for your food.
povertystricken	Date: November 22, 2004 @ 5:53 PM We got to keep our assult weapons anyway... threaded barrels and high capicity clips were the only difference between pre and post ban assult weapons. All the ban did was drive up the prices of pre-ban weapons and clips at gun shows. What a joke/scam.
imemine	Date: November 22, 2004 @ 6:11 PM If you need more than nine rounds in your AK 47 clip to shoot a deer, I suggest that you take up target practice!
povertystricken	Date: November 22, 2004 @ 6:29 PM The cops always give me stink-eye when I bring my pre-ban weapons to the firing range. Besides what fun is an AK47,AR15,or even a Mac without a 50+50 jungle clip. What if a heard of grizzlys comes along
mdearing	Date: November 23, 2004 @ 5:13 PM Man, there is a lot of hate on this board. Our country is divided down the middle, we have the blue states calling the red states a bunch of bible thumpin' rednecks, we have the red states calling the blue states a bunch of lazy freeloading liberals and we are at war. All because 9/11? George Bush is from Texas and is proud of it. Most Texans are. Contrary to what the rest of the world thinks, we are not a bunch of rednecks. Hell, I don't even own a gun. "Not that there's anything wrong with that." I'm not a Baptist and if two gay guys want to gay it up all over the place, I say go for it. George Bush is doing what he thinks is best. But he's human, just like all of us. Would Kerry have done a better job, maybe, maybe not? And contrary to what was stated above. Osama Bin Laden wants to kill those in the blue states just as much as those in the red. You’re quite misunderstood if you think that Osama is for gay marriage, or smoking pot, or freedom of speech, or any part of our constitution. So much for united we stand. Hopefully, divided we fall isn't next.
mikenomn	Date: November 23, 2004 @ 5:23 PM "Osama Bin Laden wants to kill those in the blue states just as much as those in the red." Yes, and he will continue to as long as we have a foriegn policy that involves forcing our democratic cock down the throats of every other country in the world. Not that Kerry would do any better than Bush. But we need to understand that we're not the solution to the world's problems and we have a president telling us otherwise. It's like sticking our hands in a hornet's nest to "fix their problems" and being suprised when they sting us until we're bleeding from the eyes.
mdearing	Date: November 23, 2004 @ 6:02 PM Which foreign policy are you referring to, pre 9/11 or post? Are you referring to Clinton, Bush Sr. or the 6 months of Jr.? If you think saving human beings from a dictator that gassed his own citizens, raped his own citizens and tortured his own citizens is the same thing as foreign policy blowjob, then I understand your argument. Forget Sadam was firing on our pilots flying over the demilitarized zone, that he wasn't complying with the sanction set upon him from the 1st Gulf War, that Egypt, England, Russia, France and United States all had (false) intelligence that suggested he had weapons of mass destruction. We all know now that is was wrong, but what was Bush supposed to do when all these intelligence agencies have stated that he has WMDs. Deny them? Hold out longer, until we get hit again and then re-act? The war in Iraq sucks, big time. Lives are lost every day. I guess maybe we are better off accepting the fact that not all men were meant to be free. That in some instances it's ok for dictators and terrorist to lead those who are un-educated into believing that it is better to kill themselves and make themselves a martar, than it is to teach them to respect all individuals and do what ever it takes to promote a positive life and love. Positive life and love? That’s what I’ve heard the Muslim religion is really all about. Maybe I'm wrong.
mikenomn	Date: November 23, 2004 @ 8:24 PM "I guess maybe we are better off accepting the fact that not all men were meant to be free. That in some instances it's ok for dictators and terrorist to lead those who are un-educated into believing that it is better to kill themselves and make themselves a martar, than it is to teach them to respect all individuals and do what ever it takes to promote a positive life and love. Positive life and love? That’s what I’ve heard the Muslim religion is really all about." Ding ding ding. I'm referring to all foriegn policy for the past 200 or so years. Democracy is not the only sucessful government in the world. We don't get that and force it down the throats of the rest of the world, causing most of the civil wars and uprisings that we now conveniently ignore now. That's not to say that the rest of the world isn't messed up. But through our go in, make a point and leave policies, we fuck up more in this world than we help. Hell, even in our OWN country, we consistently force values and ideals on those who aren't european decendants that speak perfect english (but that's another topic entirely). Unfortunately we've got our fingers so deeply entwined in the rest of the world that pulling out now would cause even more chaos. I guess I'm just venting. We should never have gone into Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, Central America, etc. etc. etc. But we will continue to because we think that everyone wants to be American.
mdearing	Date: November 23, 2004 @ 9:17 PM I feal ya, but if we felt that everybody in the world wanted to be American, wouldn't it have been easier to just go into Iraq, wipe it out, make it the 51st state and proceeded until the entire middle east was under our executive, judicial and legislative control? Look throughout history. Dictatorships are a dying breed. Is democracy the only successful government in the world? I guess that depends on what you consider a success is. It is my opinion that Iraq was never about setting up a democracy. It was about eliminating a threat (Sadam) and being pro-active instead of re-active in the war on terror. Once the threat was eliminated, then what do you do? Leave or try and help them get some assemble some order and help a country get on the right foot for the future? England, France, Russia, Kuwait, Aphganastan, Africa, Germany, Poland, Greece, etc etc etc, were all helped by the US dramatically. Remember WWII? Is the US perfect? Hell no! But we're not all bad either. If we were, why do more people all over the world come here over anyplace else combined? Maybe it's all the good American food like Pizza and Burritos. I've now given myself tired head. Who will we attack next? No one. Not in our generation anyway. The cost doesn't outway the benefit. But I could be wrong. I’m going back to playing my guitar.
koiulpoi	Date: January 30, 2005 @ 7:59 PM Who? Hopefully nobody. I am tired of war. I would become a republican to get my taxes lowered, but they seem to want to spend more. Where's the party of fiscal responsibility when you need it?