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U.S. Considers use of nuclear Weapons

K3VIN	Date: April 9, 2006 @ 12:17 PM http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060408/wl_mideast_afp/usirannuclearmilitary terrible.
GeneHilbert	Date: April 9, 2006 @ 12:46 PM Scare tactic…….
K3VIN	Date: April 9, 2006 @ 1:21 PM The adviser warned that bombing Iran could provoke "a chain reaction" of attacks on American facilities and citizens throughout the world and might also reignite Hezbollah. have fun.
JanTosh	Date: April 9, 2006 @ 1:50 PM Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
Veracohr	Date: April 9, 2006 @ 2:49 PM Can we say hypocrite? Using nuclear weapons against a country to keep them from getting nuclear weapons.
zedsalt	Date: April 10, 2006 @ 10:43 AM Here's hoping...and praying...Gene's right.
sinai	Date: April 10, 2006 @ 10:59 AM
PrincessTast...	Date: April 10, 2006 @ 9:08 PM Well, it was only a matter of time... Ever hear the song "Political Science" by Randy Newman? I think that's what it's called, correct me if I'm wrong.
GeneHilbert	Date: April 10, 2006 @ 10:37 PM .....ain't got no reason....
victorsskull	Date: April 10, 2006 @ 11:49 PM well isnt that special
LostYears	Date: April 11, 2006 @ 1:42 AM i know i really dont wanna b microwaved... and hose boms would make kinda funny lookin :colorchange:
pmscpc	Date: April 11, 2006 @ 3:14 AM The best explanation I heard about "all this sabre rattling" was from an Iranian Imam. He said something like: "Both the US and Iran have such chronic domestic problems that both leaders will say anything to focus attention away from home". I'm fairly rapidly forming the opinion that all news is not worth the air it travels through. Politicians have recently noticed how similar their roles are to that of celebraties.... ie you don't actually have to do anything to be famous, all you have to do is keep getting on the Telly Box, and you can do that by saying outrageous things. When's the last time you heard a politician say : "I know, let's all be nice to one another". Next day, the papers would still report: "All foreigners hate us" We've all been "going to die" ever since I can remember. First it was the evil spread of filthy communism, then it was the despicable clutch of filthy drugs, and of course, currently, it's the evil spread of filthy... bearded terrorists whose culture we haven't even bothered to learn about despite the fact that the birth of civilisation wouldn't have happened wihout them. Yes folks, it's old news, we've all heard it before and not just since 9/11 (The US 9/11, not the Chillean 9/11).
sinai	Date: April 11, 2006 @ 8:26 AM agreed. SARS anyone?
LegoBreaks	Date: April 18, 2006 @ 6:39 PM Its funny that the same country who says who can and can not be a member of 'the nuclear club' is the only country to ever use nuclear weapons agianst citizens, and now there threatening to use them again??? .... why?? because that coutry didnt have their permission to join 'the nuclear club'. Out of any country what right do they have?? this does not make sense to me at all???? I suppose its just anouther excuse for the blood thirsty satanists to have yet anouther sacrafice.
LegoBreaks	Date: April 18, 2006 @ 6:58 PM Its funny that the same country who says who can and can not be a member of 'the nuclear club' is the only country to ever use nuclear weapons agianst citizens, and now there threatening to use them again??? .... why?? because that coutry didnt have their permission to join 'the nuclear club'. Out of any country what right do they have?? this does not make sense to me at all???? I suppose its just anouther excuse for the blood thirsty satanists to have yet anouther sacrafice.
Intergalacti...	Date: April 18, 2006 @ 8:09 PM I'm pretty sure for now its a scare tactic but I wouldn't put it past that idiot
Distilled1	Date: April 18, 2006 @ 8:36 PM "I'm fairly rapidly forming the opinion that all news is not worth the air it travels through." Thats the only thing to remember And the nukes they are refering to are the little smart bombs. they aren't the big Fukrs that the media turns them into, they have been using them since Desert Storm.
GeneHilbert	Date: April 18, 2006 @ 10:54 PM "they have been using them since Desert Storm"....... I don't think that's factual. We have conventional high explosives powerful enough to do the job, and even as distorted and inflaming biased as the media is, I have never heard even a rumor of strategic nukes being deployed. Hell….. solders can’t even let their dogs sniff someone’s ass without the media blowing into a torture scandal. I doubt very seriously anyone would pass up a scoop like that and not report it.
pmscpc	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 5:29 AM Clean christian Smart Bombs bringing a lovely democracy to the uncivilsed. vs Nasty, evil, dirty bombs destroying our beloved way of life. Simplistic nonsense. Even worse when you listen to the "bringing democracy to the middle east" mantra. How can anyone organise a miltary coup to overthrow the nations (IRANs) first democractically elected government in 1953, in the name of democracy. By the way, "Dirty Bombs" are no more effective / scary than ordinary bombs - the level of radioactivity spread by them would require you to lie motionless for years on end before getting a lethal dose. Iraq and Israel both did tests on such "Weapons of war" and concluded they were of no value militarily. Tut tut - you'd think someone out there had a vested interest in stirring up fear and loathing - makes for easy crown control among the gullible, I guess. ...if this dog sniffs my arse one more time... it's cat food....... Hey - Gene, you make it sound like no one was actually abused or raped in Abu Graib - I know you're just "joshing". Tally Ho
EvilPicnic	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 8:18 AM Both governments (US & Iranian) are using the fear of war and the concept of moral superiority to control the citizens of their countries, as governments have always done. There's nothing new here.
Distilled1	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 8:42 AM ^ Ya Gene not I was not at all factual more But from what I gather, at least the first threat was misstook for nuke instead of the smart bombs. Of course I try to stay away from listing to anything the liberal media has to offer. and even moreso what the internet provides
zedsalt	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 11:13 AM "...the same country who says who can and can not be a member of 'the nuclear club' is the only country to ever use nuclear weapons agianst citizens..." Wouldn't it be nice if that were the result of our leaders trying to prevent another country from sharing the deep shame of having a nuclear strike on civilians in their history? I'm NOT saying it IS why; I'm just saying that it would be nice...
AgentMGD	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 11:55 AM It's the end of the world as we know it ..it's the end the world as we know it It's nice to see that the president hasn't lost his knack for lying to the American citizens. At first he said no, that use of nuclear weapons would never be considered and now he does an aboutface(with of course his standard of doubletalk in hopes it will fool us)and says well, it's a possible choice unless peaceful diplomacy doesn't work. IMPEACH the bastard!!
GeneHilbert	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 12:32 PM "raped in Abu Graib".... no one was raped. Humiliated…..Yes…… Abused... Possibly .... I bet Nick Berg would have preferred that over what he got....
EvilPicnic	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 12:46 PM ^^Gene, why do you always play it down? These things happened and in parts of the world are possibly still happening. Humiliated....Yes Abused....Yes. Seven soldiers were charged with dereliction of duty, maltreatment, aggravated assault, and battery. There were pictures also. Abuse... Yes, Gene, Abuse... Yes. Not Possibly. It's Raped... Possibly. There were alegations, made by an iraqi prisoner, of rape, but not enough evidence to accuse anyone of it. That doesn't mean it happened, or that it didn't happen, but that it possibly happened. And just because 'the enemy' executes prisoners it doesn't give the US the right to torture. Nothing does.
DigWeed	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 2:46 PM I live in Dubai,45 minutes away by plane from the border of Iran.. maybe i should move back to toronto
Alexsy	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 3:00 PM "deep shame of having a nuke strike ..." i just cant get over the endless leftist hand wringing about the atomic bomb. the conventional war in World War II was JUST AS BAD, if not worse. nevermind that the a-bomb brought an hyper-violent, genocidal monarchy to its merciful end; let the leftist whitewashing of real atrocities continue!
EvilPicnic	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 3:07 PM ^^Why shouldn't people wring their hands over them? They kill millions of people in one blow. And then leave nasty stuff which makes the survivors look like zombies and die a few years later of horrible cancerous diseases. Ugh. Nukes are not good things...
Alexsy	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 4:39 PM i wasnt saying that nukes aren't worth worry. i was saying, continuing to complain about the u.s. use of the atomic bomb is kind of pointless, especially in light of WWII, where everyone committed atrocities of enormous proportions. did we drop the bomb? sure, but i dont know what that proves.
kingo	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 4:50 PM it proves that given the right set of circumstances, right by our definition, we are willing to kill lots of innocent civilians in the name of our cause.
GeneHilbert	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 4:55 PM Gene, why do you always play it down?....... You know why because there is no proof. Dereliction of duty, maltreatment, aggravated assault, and battery.... YES….. they were tried found guilty and imprisoned as they should have been. But pmscpc said “rape”..... no one was charged with rape. I get sick of everyone blaming America first, over blowing bullshit while giving the butchering Arab bastards a pass. This is war people - shit happens. I didn't see everyone getting all worked up over Saddam murdering thousands. You’ve seen the videos of Saddam’s henchmen chopping off peoples hands. Did you complain about that? When Nick Berg head was removed, did you complain about that? I didn't hear any out cry of atrocities from Muslims or Europe or anyone else that want to bury their heads in the sand. Can you say double standard.....
Alexsy	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 5:10 PM "it proves that given the right set of circumstances, right by our definition, we are willing to kill lots of innocent civilians in the name of our cause." which is different from anyone else ... how, again?
kingo	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 5:25 PM So just how is this different from what Ossama tells his own followers? IT'S THE SAME FUCKING SHIT, and that's what I'M pissed off about. NOBODY SHOULD ACCEPT that "this is war -- shit happens." That's what I think, anyway. " id="215710">Exactly my point, Alexsy. Thank you. Gene: the people who blame America first, and AREN'T outraged and pissed off at Nick Berg's beheading, which one of us, exactly, is that? Who the fuck wasn't pissed off about Sadam murdering people? Why can't we pissed off about every instance of this shit? "this is war people - shit happens." So just how is this different from what Ossama tells his own followers? IT'S THE SAME FUCKING SHIT, and that's what I'M pissed off about. NOBODY SHOULD ACCEPT that "this is war -- shit happens." That's what I think, anyway.
EvilPicnic	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 5:47 PM Gene... sorry, my comment came out more offensively than I intended it to. I won't reiterate my point (you can read it again if you want to), but what I took umbridge at was the way you said they were only 'possibly' abused. Which is false. Because they were. I don't have double standards. I got worked up about Saddam murdering thousands. I still get worked up about the poor souls held hostage and murdered - Norman Kember (the British hostage who was freed recently) came from my borough, and for a long time we thought he was dead. Atrocities are and were commited on both sides, ours and theirs. Just because they do it to us, doesn't mean we have the right to do it back to them. Yes, shit happens in war. But we take great pains to prevent it happening, and when it does happen we don't pretend it's OK because 'shit happens'. We have to make a big deal about it or it might happen again. And Alexsy: Surely you want to be different from everyone else? Strive to be something better? Because if everyone felt the same way as you we'd sink deep beneath a moral quagmire and we'd all be dead within the year. Just because everyone else is doing something doesn't make it right. And (fyi) the vast majority of people are not willing to kill lots of innocent civilians in the name of their cause. It's radical minorities who do, like Islamic fundamentalists and Christain fundamentalists.
EvilPicnic	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 5:49 PM oh.. kingo got there first
kingo	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 5:52 PM I hear that a lot.
Alexsy	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 6:36 PM "And Alexsy: Surely you want to be different from everyone else? Strive to be something better? Because if everyone felt the same way as you we'd sink deep beneath a moral quagmire and we'd all be dead within the year." "Different from everyone else" gets you exactly what? Oh, so instead of torturing say, Mr. X, we sit him in jail for a decade, and let his radicalism ferment. Great. Rehabilitate Mr. X? Sure -- so he can go out and blow himself up again. That's helpful. "It's radical minorities" ... actually no. it's masses, hordes of stupid, uneducated, uninterested people who go about doing whatever they're told. that's what enables radical minorities to do as they please. so it's really a partnership. you can't isolate one or the other. In sum, I've concluded that there is no difference between good and evil -- only a difference between whose side you're on and when.
K3VIN	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 6:57 PM christians have killed more then any other religon. And how did nick berg get a us prison uniform? if a nuclear bomb goes off... itll be too late for you naive people to say shit. You guys seem to forget all the scandels that happened from america... the whole incident of the iraq babies getting thrown off buildings... that was no civilian that was a daughter of the senate... americans arent samaritans and are far from perfect. Both sides have horrible people, the middle east has bad people, and america has bad people. Canada has bad people, the uk has bad people.
imemine	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 7:00 PM I think that we should just bomb K3!
sinai	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 7:09 PM why do you hate america?
K3VIN	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 7:16 PM i hate deception... its been going on for too long... why do people idolize a fake? a white jesus... its retarded... if they cant even paint him dark why would u believe the words they say... why would u trust a government who over and over has been caught red handed.
Alexsy	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 7:19 PM this thread makes me wanna sing ... "It's the end of the world as we know it ... and I feel FIIINNNEEEEE ..."
K3VIN	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 7:23 PM no one is a hero.
desiderata	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 7:52 PM Bullshit.
K3VIN	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 7:58 PM I meant as a whole, obviously we have heroes, but america as a whole needs to save itself before it saves the world.
GeneHilbert	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 10:22 PM "Gene: the people who blame America first, and AREN'T outraged and pissed off at Nick Berg's beheading"........ I don't know - were you....? I didn’t see you outrage, but I might have missed it. Hell – I don’t think I even knew you then. So tell me now……. Say it! Put it on record. I sure as hell didn’t see as much made of Berg as I did world wide outrage of a naked Iraqi with panties on his head (OH MY GOD!!! - Not the dreaded panty torture). All I ever see here - is bitching about America, bitching about Bush, bitching about republicans. What is the title of this thread? What does that imply…..? My point is - this is all about incitement, not about a two sided debate. Just inflaming, distorted one-sided bullshit, and very few here will say that or stand up to it.
desiderata	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 10:57 PM When my sister was little, like two or three, she used to wear my panties on her head like a hat. She seemed to like it. Of course, she was never forced to masturbate in public, or stand perfectly still with fake electrodes attached to her genitals. I guess I'm a pretty good big sister after all. Although once I did tell her that she'd get seven years of luck if she licked a bar of soap ... Gene -- some people seem to think that posting a thread of liberal rants on DMusic is some sort of activism. It isn't. In the best of all possible worlds, it would lead to respectful, intelligent debate. Unfortunately, that rarely happens here. Sorry.
Alexsy	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 10:57 PM "America as a whole needs to save itself ..." I have no idea what this means. I give up.
leedsquietman	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 11:05 PM christians have killed more then any other religon. How do you evaluate something like this or get accurate statistics?
DeadraveN	Date: April 19, 2006 @ 11:05 PM never thought I'd say this, but i find myself agreeing with Gene's last post. and desi, well put... so many people want to air their opinions without being able to listen to others in a civilized manner, and in the end, it all does nothing. just everyone ranting and throwing around the "facts" they think they know that support their arguements and again, in the end, it's completely pointless.. still.. it makes for an entertaining read... would be more entertaining I think if there were a few more like Gene in here willing to speak up for the other side....
pmscpc	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 3:56 AM Gene said "I get sick of everyone blaming America first, over blowing bullshit while giving the butchering Arab bastards a pass." I think it's safe to say that there are quite a few arabs who are just as sick of being demonised as uncivilised, illegitimate butchers. Also, when someone attacks "America" as Gene puts it, they are usually attacking something wrong, rather than an entire population. But, if you pretend it's the whole nation, you can also pretend it unpatriotic, or irresponsible (to quote one of the US Admin's favourite non arguments). What angers a lot of other people is the way focus is shifted from one thing to another - like from Stealing Oil to Installing Democracy (or, as in my last post, ignoring the bulk of the argument and picking on the one single incidental word). Eventually, when all else has failed, the warmongers might also get the connection between declaring war for economic gain and getting blamed for wrong doing. The overall impression I get sometimes is that folk think it's OK to kill innocent people so long as you THINK they're guilty. We in the UK (well, most of us) just think it's wrong to kill people. I think it fitting to remember that some Nazis were executed for " pursuing an aggressive war ". Ponder on that one next time double standards raises it's head. Annnnnnnnnd.......I'm spent. Good day
EvilPicnic	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 5:12 AM GeneI don't know - were you....? I didn’t see you outrage, but I might have missed it. Hell – I don’t think I even knew you then. So tell me now……. Say it! Put it on record. ' ...what sort of challenge is that? You're asking me to prove that someone getting beheaded disgusts me, outrages me? Of course it does. But the reason more fuss is made when American soldiers abuse Iraqis, is that America is viewed as the 'good guys', going in to liberate the iraqi populace. Now, the Iraqi 'bad guys' had already shown that they were willing to kidnap & kill, so i's not as shocking when it does happen. It's like.... you'd make more of it if Superman started humiliating and abusing people, than if the The Joker killed someone. Because Superman makes himself out to be good and right and true and a better person generally than The Joker. That's why - For a long time the US was held up as this great, perfect nation, but in the eyes of the world at the moment, that reputation is going down the drain, and the abuse at Abu Ghraib is just anothr indication of that. I don't just bitch about Bush. I bitch about everything. We live in societies where you're is allowed to form your own opinion about important issues (unlike in Iran or China). It just so happens that many threads seem to be created here on the subject of US politics. If anyone wants to make threads on different subjects (like.... UK politics.. anyone? or.. sciency stuff?.. or climate change?... or.. perhaps... music?), then I'd be happy to join in. I'm (as you can see) an opinionated person. Gene: 'very few here will say that or stand up to it.' Good for you. Unfortunately, I agree with a lot of it, so for me to say that it's distorted bullshit would be a little hypocritical. I like K3's attitude: 'Both sides have horrible people, the middle east has bad people, and america has bad people. Canada has bad people, the uk has bad people. ' Absolutely true.
GeneHilbert	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 10:59 AM Stealing Oil to Installing Democracy…….. again unsubstantiated accusation.......... Show me your proof. We live in societies where you're allowed to form your own opinion about important issues (unlike in Iran or China)……. You got Damn Right..... Don’t talk you any dissident in China on Yahoo……
K3VIN	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 11:40 AM PopAlexsy Date: April 19, 2006 @ 10:57 PM "America as a whole needs to save itself ..." I have no idea what this means. I give up. ^^ go driving in some areas of chicago, d.c. detroit anywhere, and see some bad areas, see the people that live beside abandoned buildings everywhere... that have no hope, ud think a bomb landed there... see people who cant afford to fix their roof so they use a tarp... before u spend money trying to save people in other conutries use it for proper funding, america needs to save itself before it starts going to other countries...
Svensta	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 1:14 PM I love Desiderata just for her one word reply up there. Keep in mind the US government has run about 500 plans for nuclear assault for countries as varied as Russia, China, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, SOUTH Korea, Japan, Laos, Pakistan, India, and so on. These are contingency plans which are needful in the military engine. These weapons are political and I think Bush knows he has doesn't have the mandate of a box of Cheezits let alone enough of one from us to nuke anything at this point. The Democrats had best be building up a GOOD candidate for the next run-off. And no I don't mean Hilary.
Israfel	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 1:57 PM I also love Desiderata for her one word reply up there. and k3vin...i have lived in chicago in one of those "bad areas" and I currently work daily with people who often have to sleep under a tree or bush in a park somewhere because our homeless shelter is full for the night. I see them everyday...walking to the next place that might be able to help them. I talk to them. I listen. I try to do what one person can do. And the thing is, there is always hope. Yes, the system sucks. Yes, people are hurting and lonely and cold and hungry and all of that can make a person feel degraded and, even worse, invisible. But over all, I haven't met one of those people yet who still don't harbor some hope that there is a better way, a helping hand, and a way out. Do I think America does all that it can for its own? No way. In fact, I agree that our government does less then it can to help its own. But don't discount the American people because there are very few here who do not open up their pockets and give their money, their time and their talents to try to what's right. When I hear that people in other countries hate Americans I cringe. Because I know what they are basing that on is that they probably hate our government and we, the American people, are suddenly guilty by association. Yes, there is a lot of crime in American. Yes, our foreign policy stinks. Yes, (sorry Gene...I know you won't agree) but I think our president is a bubble head. Yet thousands of people from all over the world seek to live here...and there has to be a reason why. Some may say its because we allow them so many benefits and that takes away something from those Americans who need it. That's a whole other argument and thread. I think it is because that even though there are many many things that could be better here in America, it is still a place where someone who is oppressed, abused and humiliated in their own country can come and have at least some hope of getting ahead and having some quality of life and human dignity. Debate the war, debate the government's effectiveness to do anything, debate all you want...but don't ever think that just because there are things to be fixed and things that seem bad that there is no hope. There is always hope.
sinai	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 2:58 PM unless you're dead...
Israfel	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 2:59 PM @ sinai...ok you got me there.
K3VIN	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 3:13 PM not everyone can see hope.
GeneHilbert	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 3:21 PM Well Dude - I even hold out hope for you...... call me a romantic......
shadowself	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 3:29 PM chortle
DeadraveN	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 8:20 PM Fuck it, let's drop the bombs. Let's blow this world up before Jesus comes back. He'll be all confused and shit and won't know where to go...
BOWILLIE	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 8:26 PM and when it clears a million years later.. you will see two headed ravens walking around with four legs..
GeneHilbert	Date: April 20, 2006 @ 10:22 PM the early bird........
pangtera	Date: April 21, 2006 @ 2:28 AM As a side note, I dont think highly of the dichotomy of "Republican and Democrat" or "Conservative and Liberal." Some think that if you support the war then that makes you a Republican or a conservative, but if you want to hug trees, then you're a liberal. Naive labeling at its finest. Hopefully we can gradually start treating people like individuals and not members of groups in the context of politics. I think everyone has issues they are "conservative" about and issues that they are "liberal" about. I sure there are people who support President Bush AND care about the environment, or people who supported Bill Clinton AND love guns as much as Charleton Heston does. So ends this side note.
GeneHilbert	Date: April 21, 2006 @ 2:29 AM Sounds about right.......
zedsalt	Date: April 21, 2006 @ 11:17 AM "When I hear that people in other countries hate Americans I cringe. Because I know what they are basing that on is that they probably hate our government and we, the American people, are suddenly guilty by association." This brings up an interesting point...or at least, a point I've found interesting enough to mention in these forums once or twice before. Not long before the former Carter/Reagan era hostages of Iran's new order started saying, "Hey, their new president looks familiar!", I saw an interview with a journalist who had spent most of the forty years previous in the Middle East. He observed that there was only one country he'd been to where the average man on the street DIDN'T hate America: Iran. The reason? He said they were the ONE country in the region where the populace had no means of blaming the U.S. in one way or another for their government. There's a pretty simple, common sense lesson in there: the less we meddle in their affairs, the more they like us.
DeadraveN	Date: April 21, 2006 @ 7:16 PM I haven't meddled in their affairs.
Izekial	Date: April 22, 2006 @ 12:01 AM You haven't, but people that represent us have. We look like a collective mass of Neanderthals. It’s an image of us twisted around, used as propaganda to inspire the next generation of potential “rebels” or “terrorists” in Iran or wherever, but it did come from somewhere, this view of who we are, what we stand for. I said I wouldn’t get into conversations like this and I particularly loath debating politics, but I’ll step in with some good old ignorance one more time... the fact of the matter is you’re all fucking wrong. Liberal weenies and Republican ass kissers bother the hell out of me. Liberals will never stand up and punch someone in the face and Republicans will never stop barreling their way to some kind of metaphysical, proverbial “top.” Defending my freedom... what fucking freedom? People in other countries are just as free as I am. They just don’t have as much. Keep me safe? I’ve never been afraid, not once, not even when we were attacked. Fuckin’ New York voted BLUE! Shouldn’t they be afraid? Shouldn’t New York, of all the states, have been red at the end of our last election? What about the egging of our illustrious leader during his inauguration? Did you know that that’s never happened before? Bush is outwardly slow, but I also wanted to point out his orating skills again... can someone fucking tell me what “truthiness” is? Can we all agree that this man can barely TALK?! How could we possible blame this man for anything? I’m not mad at him at all, actually, now that I think about it. I’ve always said that I love my country. I love the gun lovers and the snobby intellectuals, absolutely love to hate both of them with a burning, near-blinding passion... but I digress... I do know how great I’ve got it here. I mean I’m cybering with someone right now, after eating strawberries I didn’t harvest and drinking water someone else filtered for me. This is a damn good country, if I may get Ford Tough for a moment... there’s a lot of shit going on around here I don’t agree with, though, which confuses and saddens me, sometimes makes me feel like I’m lumped in with a bunch of warmongering oil tycoons. My point is... why don’t you just say it? Say, “We’re killing people for oil.” That’s all you gotta say. Don’t lie to me. Tell me the truth. Then I’ll say, “Ok... at least you laid it out straight, son.” People in third world countries are fucking cavemen, at least when compared to how things are ran in other parts of the world, but... I say let them fight it out or rot if they can’t figure things out. I’ve always said that. They let us kill each other. They let us have our outstanding gunshot fatalities and pornography and all manner of crazy, amoral shit we like to indulge in, never impede on our hypocritical, self-destructive ways... so let them hash things out. What about our sick? Our dying? Our poverty stricken, our children steadily becoming dumber every year? What about the innovators who live here and want to create an alternate fuel source? How about we stop relying on other countries so much? This is the land of plenty, right? You don’t like Iran or Iraq or North Korea or whatever the fuck, right? Let’s work with countries that actually want to work with us, give and take, build foreign relations, and if someone tells us to go fuck ourselves? Fine, we’ll do that, since we’ll be centrally supporting ourselves anyway. Nobody wants to put in the work, though. No one wants change, no one wants to take on the big companies or the religious zealots or those leaning to the right or any asshole that can’t get enough of America’s red white and blue cock. No cowardly Liberal is going to save the day, is only capable of throwing the blatant mistakes of those in power back at their faces. Our government will keep fucking up and those who’re remotely wise enough to see what’s going on will never act and it’ll go ‘round and ‘round, like a fucking dog chasing its tail... and I’ll be sitting here, wishing everyone would SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LET ME DIE IN PEACE. That’s all I want. No nuclear attacks, no more fighting, for the love of Jesus Christ masturbating to Billy Ocean on the cross. We having housing companies buying out poor people’s homes in New Orleans, because they have no place to go and they’re old and they can’t rebuild their houses on their own property... doesn’t that make you want to cry? Why aren’t we just rebuilding the houses? We’d lose money? What the fuck... what... the... fuck... on second thought, I’m moving to Canada. Ya’ll can go fuck yourselves.
pmscpc	Date: April 22, 2006 @ 6:13 AM