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ChillinBuzz	Date: October 27, 2007 @ 4:04 PM Whilst having not been here as long as the boss or, say Vandaman (who until his untimely absence was probably the longest serving member/contributor to this site) I have seen an awful lot of ups and downs, a lot of changes that have shaped the present predicament. I know that there would be a significant hole in my life should the unthinkable happen, or worse, it was swallowed up by a larger fish who had no interest in the thoughts and deeds of its inhabitants. I would be left feeling that I, as a long serving member now, didn't do enough to assist in the long term survival. Evolution online is a very fast and often torrid phase. I just want to know how it would affect everyone else. To me, the community has been largely instrumental in all things good and bad here over the years. I would like to think that I gave more than I took. I also wish I had a magic wand that, with one flick of the wrist, could transform us from the longest running independent music site online into the longest running and biggest and most successful site too. How would it affect you?
GeneHilbert	Date: October 27, 2007 @ 4:20 PM As I try to visit here some daily. There would be a musical and social void. However on the bright side - you no would no longer have to ignore my incessant shouts of..... Dude.....!
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 27, 2007 @ 4:23 PM Considering all this place has to offer and our differences of opinion on political matters put aside for this thread's topic, like many things here your "Dude!" shout would actually be missed, Gene. I guess I have grown so close to this place at times that it has become an integral part of my musical history and career.
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: October 27, 2007 @ 5:27 PM ... I would be sad. Gutted for a few days at least But life goes on. I'm sure the people who mean the most to me here would find another channel to stay in touch and do our music thang ! Some of us already do anyway at other sites. I would feel badly though for those like you Buzz, and Jack and all those who bust their nuts getting the redesign going if we went belly up in the near future. And to all of those who had stayed loyal to the site through good and bad for years. Let's ensure that we all do our bit to not let this occur.
KitRumble	Date: October 27, 2007 @ 5:32 PM Where would we go I see images of Dmers walking windy grey streets kicking cans...and then later rioting.... Oh no Moams just smashed a shop window...a lingerie shop.....Geez mate you look good in that !!!
moam	Date: October 27, 2007 @ 5:55 PM I can sense a photoshop image in the making
shutyatrap	Date: October 27, 2007 @ 6:07 PM Yes I know he would he has the body for it... but did he have to go crutchless? I think this is a pretty negative thread to be honest....but perhaps important to think about as people seem to think D Music is in such a predicament right now! To be honest I'd be pretty upset if the site closed down. Also pissed off that my efforts to bring the community together through my Radio show didn't pay off. I think on a site such as this there will always be people who get pissed off about things when they don't go their own way... Some sadly leave... I really hope the site will continue to promote Indie artists and will go out of its way to find artists who are unique and foster these talents. Thats what this site is about firstly right...as much as i love a chat. Long live Indie music... Quick Die Mainstream shit!! shutyatrap: http://shutyatrap.dmusic.com/music/comments/361412
ebarbarella	Date: October 27, 2007 @ 6:24 PM do you want me to start crying here? this is my favorite place, my best friends are here, the best music on the net is here love DMusic, long live indeed!
NosmoKing	Date: October 27, 2007 @ 6:28 PM Close down? Nah... I just got here. Too much to listen to.. Too many people to meet. I would be disappointed if that happened to say the least. This place rocks (pun intended)
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: October 27, 2007 @ 6:30 PM I couldn't bear the thought of making Barbie cry ;( So let's keep the flame burning strong !! Viva Dmusic...
NosmoKing	Date: October 27, 2007 @ 6:32 PM Close down? Nah... I just got here. Too much to listen to.. Too many people to meet. I would be disappointed if that happened to say the least. This place rocks (pun intended)
BOWILLIE	Date: October 27, 2007 @ 7:11 PM 2012... this shall be the year of reckoning. 2012 shall be remembered in the history of dmusic for ever. Why? From the position of planetary movements and astrological calculations... the significance of number three for present civilization is immense. The 12th year of 21st century totals number three. Talking of 2012 means... we have already stepped into the 21st century which numerically totals three. The 12th year also totals to three. A significant upheaval on the whole shall be the order of the day./according to nostradamus. and on a lighter note ..after that happens i will find a buddy who likes to repeat his sentences..so i can relive the double post effect
mudshadow	Date: October 27, 2007 @ 7:37 PM That's a load of bullshit.
mudshadow	Date: October 27, 2007 @ 7:37 PM That's a load of bullshit.
shutyatrap	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 12:53 AM Yes bullshit!
shutyatrap	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 12:53 AM Yes bullshit!
BOWILLIE	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 3:00 AM bite me
BOWILLIE	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 3:00 AM bite me again
GeneHilbert	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 4:01 AM I think Dmusic needs a designated Fluffer........
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 5:02 AM Moam in lingerie... I'll never sleep again.
Jazzmary2U	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 10:17 AM What would happen? not much..
Mojosnake	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 10:25 AM did i miss something? (this happens alot) dmusic going somewhere?
evansorchid	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 10:37 AM La....La....La.... I'm not listening....
zedsalt	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 10:56 AM I have to agree with Steven's assertion that this thread is...unintentionally, I'm sure...a real negative and unlikely to achieve much. So, I'll just play Madlibs with some quotes. "Dmusic...s...designated Fluffer........""Moam in lingerie""What would happen? not much..""no longer"
kingo	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 11:41 AM I thought maybe this thread would offer some actual, specific answer. Like, "Hey, guys, if for some terrible, awful reason something happens and DMusic isn't here some day, let's all meet over and moam's place. He'll be wearing lingerie but you're free to ignore that; we just need a place to get together and figure out what to do next."
moam	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 12:34 PM I'll make sure you CAN'T ignore my sexy ass
HenriRoger	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 12:48 PM If you're a lucky suscriber it will not happen the day after you payed . If not ... I would miss this place
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 12:55 PM The thread has actually shown something that has been commented on quite a lot lately... That if this place did vanish, people would miss it but as long as it's here, few take it seriously.
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 12:57 PM I should've added that the thread was a serious thought... Not that it would've made a difference, someone would've eventually ground it down into another pointless off-topic nonsense page.
HenriRoger	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 1:04 PM On 27th Oct 2012, ChillinBuzz said: I know that there would be a significant hole in my life should the unthinkable happen, or worse, it was swallowed up by a larger fish who had no interest in the thoughts and deeds of its inhabitants. I would be left feeling that I, as a long serving member now, didn't do enough to assist in the long term survival. Evolution online is a very fast and often torrid phase.
AgentMGD	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 1:11 PM if the site passed away, you would never know how the S.I.N. ended also i would miss adding great tracks to my iPod and chatting with my DM friends
HenriRoger	Date: October 28, 2007 @ 1:13 PM You did good , others did too . And is Dmusic such in a bad health ?
LiQuidMetamo...	Date: October 29, 2007 @ 2:20 AM They're healthy enough to take my subscription money by paypal this month... I know I've said plenty of negative things but one thing which we keep coming back to is that with current revenue streams, either people who want a whole bunch of extra features could help by subscribing, or Dmusic needs to find more advertising revenue, which given the fact that we are not Myspace and having a bunch of people clicking through ads means we rely on amateurs maintaining and doing any development on an ad hoc basis, while other companies with lots of investment are giving all kinds of facilities and widgets to people. What we are attracting too little of are quality musicians or fans of independent music and what we have too much of are freeloaders dumping their illegal mp3 collection on our bandwidth. Although don't ask me for an answer because short of restricting non subs to 5 songs max or something (which will only serve to drive away many people) I don't know how to resolve this. Maybe we could be a bit more positive? Yes, there are many web 2.0 developments that could be implemented in time, budget prevailing. But having a personal website with these facilities doesn't come cheap and comes without a community interaction. Many sites that have these new 'gadgety' type of looks like photobucket or flickr etc don't give you the same facilities for uploading music, which is a major reason for being a DM member or subscriber. We've said it all before - be positive, recommend Dmusic to friends (many of us have, and that has helped to make up for some losses with quality new people such as AORPete and Family and NoSmoking), upload music here or sell your CDs through musicpill. If you want to keep Dmusic or heaven forbid, actually improve it, it relies on a substantial number of people doing their bit. I have recommended this site at ableton and cubase forums, have links on my personal webpage back here. Of course, some people have no desire or are too lazy to register but you gotta keep at it.
zedsalt	Date: October 29, 2007 @ 10:51 AM The third paragraph of leeds' post of 2:20 this a.m. raises a good point, then suggests the biggest cause of the problem is a possible solution. DMusic has fallen victim to an "it happens every time" truism: less content, less traffic, more illegal files. On the larger sites, obvious cases of infringement are turned in within minutes of posting. The larger a site is, the less need for an administrator or administrators to police it. The larger a site is, the more likely it is to have large groups of users who are watching all the new uploads and who care enough about the site to contact an admin' when they find episodes of infringement. More music makes for more traffic, and more traffic doesn't leave a cozy place for illegal file sharers to hide.
TameasDust	Date: October 29, 2007 @ 1:05 PM Fatalism .. gotta love it. Always be positive and be therefore unique for anyone can be normal. Remember to on someone you know in a public place and blame it on them
SillyMoam	Date: October 29, 2007 @ 8:20 PM Oh Tameas!
ChillinBuzz	Date: October 30, 2007 @ 10:19 AM It's not hard to set a computer up to take payments at regular intervals. That's minimal user action (not including maintenance and occasional hiccups). More traffic = more publicity. Good. More traffic = more illegal uploads. Not good. Therefore, if traffic was to increase by such a large amount, more admins would be needed to police it... But we have a problem with policing the site, at least, it sometimes appears that way. What I'd like to see is some reassurances, nothing more for now. At least some acknowledgement that the community actually means anything to the top brass. If it don't, then it wouldn't make much difference anyway but it might help morale, no? Also, a larger site costs more money to run. If a large influx of users use the site and give nothing back, who's going to fund it? I would rather not see it taken over by another company... There was a time we did have SOME decent staff here holding it together (although god knows how) but they're all gone. It's been lying almost dormant in terms of development for months... So to be told it's not going to disappear tomorrow or going to get even slower would be nice, how hard can it be for a human being to respond to this? And someone lock TD in the damn bathroom!
zedsalt	Date: October 30, 2007 @ 11:35 AM "More traffic = more illegal uploads." Are you sure? I mean, I'm not saying I'm certain you're wrong, but are you certain you're right? There's obviously a HUGE difference in the percentage of illegal downloads when a site's small enough to be attractive to illegal uploaders vs. a big site with the inevitable amateur policing, outside attention, etc. It's enough of a difference that I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear that a site that gets, say, 10,000 uploads/week on average gets FEWER TOTAL illegal uploads than a site that gets, oh, 10 uploads in an average week. And I fail to see how you, Chill', in particular could see publicity as a positive. After all, publicity does lead to growth, if anyone's willing to take advantage of it.

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