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An apology for Jennae.

KevBrock	Date: December 23, 2003 @ 8:10 PM I don't know what I did to upset her,I'm pretty sure I did nothing wrong. Maybe if I apologize to her, maybe that will bring her back? Well, all apologiez to Jennae. I realized that Jennae was the one who reccomended IBOB to come here to do this Christmas competition. But seriously, I think Jennae overreacted a bit over my discussion with the IBOB hosts. I never once flamed her. I fail to see how she would get upset over this? Can someone please show this thread to her in private so she can come in here and accept this apology? I'm just doing this to be a nice guy and make her feel better.
Sweats	Date: December 23, 2003 @ 10:04 PM Wow, I just read all that today. That's some wierd wild stuff. Crazy stuff. Crazy stuff. Man.......thats just some crazy stuff.
invocati	Date: December 23, 2003 @ 10:10 PM Not a very good apology KevBrock...Very insincere. I'm just doing this to be a nice guy and make her feel better. COME ON!
robin101	Date: December 23, 2003 @ 10:19 PM That's exactly why there was no reponse. Wanna be part of DM? Be careful what you wish for.
Arthen	Date: December 23, 2003 @ 10:43 PM "I'm just doing this to be a nice guy and make her feel better" boyy....this stinks of wussiness my friend. i said STINK. I'm doing you a favour; go READ DAVID DEANGELO!!!!
withering	Date: December 23, 2003 @ 10:46 PM ...no ...can't stay silent anymore... just CAAANT! Kev, please , for each word you utter you're only making things worse...
KevBrock	Date: December 23, 2003 @ 10:51 PM How this making it worse? Is it really that big of a deal either? Just a simple apology. If she wants to, she'll come in here and accept it. I'm sure she will since she seems like a nice person.
sinai	Date: December 23, 2003 @ 11:05 PM so you dont know what upset her? you didnt have a naked chick on your user page by any chance did you? coz if you did...
Pagan	Date: December 23, 2003 @ 11:26 PM sinai1 lol!!!!!!!!!!
Thaspian	Date: December 23, 2003 @ 11:27 PM This is more of an "I didn't do anything you overreacted" apology than an "I'm sorry" apology.
Pagan	Date: December 23, 2003 @ 11:32 PM LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pagan	Date: December 23, 2003 @ 11:32 PM dont get me started
woodhead	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 12:20 AM hmmmm
smelv1n	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 12:41 AM i missed something so i'll just laugh with pagan
ChillinBuzz	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 5:02 AM loser idiot(ahem)... trying to steal people's songs just so HE only can win a contest " "I was flaming the guys that got this contest started, not her. " make up your mind kid.. you were or you weren't??? which is it?? yeah but keep talking Kev.. you were riding that horse high weren't you? when you had 'ol larry backing you up... just couldn't shut up could you??? LEf's next best friend you :kissass:! "KevBrock Date: December 23, 2003 @ 6:24 PM So if you want to blame someone that it upset Jen and Chillin about it, blame leflaw, not me. I have nothing to do with anything. Oh well, life goes on, eh. " oh but noooooooooooooooow, nowwwwwwwww it's all lef fault! this really amuses me truely...you two faced SOB.. and I don't think you ahve to worry about anyone stealing your music Kev... I've heard it.. you're safe. :puke: oh and btw Kev... "I'm just doing this to be a nice guy and make her feel better." ...indeed invocati ... save it Kev! and btw, wipe that brown :poo: off your nose. oh and btw I also did a live radio interview tonight on collaborating online. .. maybe if you would have shut your mouth it could have been you :finger: Oh and did you know... MR I KNOW EVERYTHING our faithful leader called these "spamming frauds"... and asked them to be recruited to dm! Seems as He changed his mind about them... too bad I had ALREADY recuited them before they were harrassed, degraded and threatend ever so childishly in public on our site.. excuse me YOUR SITE!! and I quote: sultan: guess who called me today? jennae: verbal abuse man? sultan: he is trying to recruit me... sultan: your not the only one to quit apparently jennaedmusic : after how he treated you? sultan: he said several people did... jennae: good jennae: he was WAY jennae: out of line jennae: it embarrassed me heavily jennae: i will not support him then he proceeds to tell me that after leflaw tried to chum up to him that leflaw then tells him how i am trouble! :irked: sultan: he called you a trouble maker today and told me to 'look out' for you :rollseyes: I'M TROUBLE???? HOW DARE YOU CALL ME THAT! uh huh :rollseyes: I Travelled 8 hours and how many miles larry, to support your Baltimore debate... and did lef even give any of us the courtesy of a handshake and a Thank you for coming???? Nope. :blankstare: and back in july when we had that XXX pic being uploaded on dm issue, how he publically told everyone Thumbtack quit over me and how everyone thought i left becuase of the topic at hand.... :rollseyes: tell them all how you noted me about how I ruined your site and how I was so terrrible for dm, they didn't read your notes did they larry?? They don't know why I really left do they?? or what was said back then do they?? NOPE! :blankstare: matters not! heh.. and we both know why THUMBTACK, quit :gawk: (whom mind you if this man hated me so much and quit over me) :rollseyes: why did i just spend 3 days at his house on my way to Baltimore... who really made him quit :king:? :gawk: (inserts myself as scape goat ) :bleh: Let someone else answer the members questions for you, help them set their pages up, apologize for you when you have a pissy on someone or make excuses for why you can't be bothered to ever note them back. I've done a lot for dm, and have cleaned up many messes you don't even know about because I have until now cleaned them up for you.:bleh: I pity the new members and admin that rely on you for execution. meh.. you're right .. i didn't do :poo: indeed larry indeed. well todays your lucky day! you won't get :poo: from me anymore! leflaw Date: December 20, 2003 @ 6:20 PM "I accuse you of being surreptious, deceitful and dishonest." as I do you LARRY... isn't it true you called Rick Iantosca and represented yourself as THUMBTACK to him, lying about how BILL Evans was the owner of dmusic. :gawk: for the life of me I couldn't figure out how rick kept thinking bill owned the site, until I figured it out that you LIED to rick IANtosca, and without bill evans knowledge you falsely represented yourself as him. Bill, nor Rick appreciated this at all, and out of curiousity, how many other times did you falsely represent Bill or anyone else?? who's a liar? indeed. our fearless leaderat his best: http://www.dmusic.com/forum/leflaw/6071 well then ... I guess I have a certain amount of respect for others, normally, but i have lost all for the owner of this site. I don't care if you are the president of the united states you don't treat people like that! and shame on me for stooping so low in this response but eh.. fuck it nothing to lose :bleh: and in ending this rant anyone that puts a front page BOUNTY on a member at $500 for their personal information on a music site... ( kneo ) and treats people in this manner is definitely not conducting good business. Nor worthy of my help, time, assistance or presence. I'm tired of it! "Don't piss in my face and tell me its raining." touche damn shame dm ain't mine... I'd at least I'd treat people right. :bleh: get a PR larry, you shouldn't be dealing with the public. to anyone who gives a damn, the rest of you were great and will be sorely missed :hug: for once we agree. No one wants to be made to feel the way some of us have made some others feel in recent events. Cryxan: The problem isn't with people taking the internet too seriously, it's with some not taking it seriously enough. DMusic is a business. A business on the internet, one with a specific cause and goal. And behind each of these usernames is a human being sitting behind a computer. At work, at home, at their parents', at their boy/girlfriend's place... each with a unique character, past, and personality. Some are young, some old, some are pro artists, some are learning their way, some are here to listen, some are here to work. We are all people, and once you're around DM for a while, you begin to recognize the different personalities associated with the pretty avatars. It's not "just the internet," Kev. It's real people gathered in a very real place, using a real form of communication to participate in this community. Maybe it's not a big part of YOUR life, but that doesn't change the realness of this place. 12/24 1:36 AM I can't belive you called another music website larry to tell them i was trouble... :disappointed: you deserve this post. indeed you do. " id="75713">I got a good idea what you might be laughing about... she's right this time, so if you have an issue with Jen, you can go kiss my ass 1000 times, suck Saddam's dick cos you love it, and ride Colonel Gaddafi until you cant stand the sand in your crack anymore. Get YOU started?? GET YOU STARTED????? dont get ME started! your tantrum will pale into insignificance.... seriously... wind me up now and watch me tear YOU a new asshole! i did it once to the Man Who Loves To Be King... what makes you think i wouldnt get banned doing it again? after all this.... KEVBROCK "I don't know what I did to upset her,I'm pretty sure I did nothing wrong. Maybe if I apologize to her, maybe that will bring her back? Well, all apologiez to Jennae. But seriously, I think Jennae overreacted a bit over my discussion with the IBOB hosts. I never once flamed her. I fail to see how she would get upset over this? Can someone please show this thread to her in private so she can come in here and accept this apology? I'm just doing this to be a nice guy and make her feel better." "Maybe if I apologize to her, maybe that will bring her back?" Kev are you ever so pompous to think I really give a flying rats a about you or your simple minded opinions ??? WTF EVER! Mind you you kept egging on Larry and kept adding fuel to the fire, but "CHILD", as much as you would like to be important.... you are not.. get off your high horse and mind your own business! "I realized that Jennae was the one who reccomended IBOB to come here to do this Christmas competition." Well then if you knew ANYTHING at all then you should have known that if I do anything for this site, it's always in the best interest of this site, or the artist involved and have NEVER EVER put my word on something without being sure of it. I already did the foot work kid, long time ago, my only mistake was not making sure LArry can properly read his own forum that this info was posted over a MONTH AGO and he even commented in, to only few days prior to completion decides he's got sudden issues. (not paying attn is my guess) "But seriously, I think Jennae overreacted" KID, anyone that saw how OUR community,(leflaw) Publically responded to these people that I personally refered and hyped dmusic too, and doesn't get why I am pissed off, not including his little accussational note I received on an issue already stated in the thread... well, then I can't help you. Nor do I give a flying if your simple mind comprehends! I am soo terribly disappointed and discusted with dmusic's response to users it's unreal! and not to mention his actions in recent events.. which I WILL get into! ....trouble indeed larry, that was low, but first things first shall we. KEV "I was just adding a discussion to that IBOB Contest " you call that thread discussion???? "I didnt treat anyone badily at all. Not one bit. As I said people take things too personal" KevBrock Date: December 20, 2003 @ 2:27 AM Now that I think of it, it probably is a fraud and some loser idiot**(ahem)... trying to steal people's songs just so HE only can win a contest " "I was flaming the guys that got this contest started, not her. " make up your mind kid.. you were or you weren't??? which is it?? yeah but keep talking Kev.. you were riding that horse high weren't you? when you had 'ol larry backing you up... just couldn't shut up could you??? LEf's next best friend you ! "KevBrock Date: December 23, 2003 @ 6:24 PM So if you want to blame someone that it upset Jen and Chillin about it, blame leflaw, not me. I have nothing to do with anything. Oh well, life goes on, eh. " oh but noooooooooooooooow, nowwwwwwwww it's all lef fault! this really amuses me truely...you two faced SOB.. and I don't think you ahve to worry about anyone stealing your music Kev... I've heard it.. you're safe. oh and btw Kev... "I'm just doing this to be a nice guy and make her feel better." ...indeed invocati ... save it Kev! and btw, wipe that brown off your nose. oh and btw I also did a live radio interview tonight on collaborating online. .. maybe if you would have shut your mouth it could have been you Oh and did you know... MR I KNOW EVERYTHING our faithful leader called these "spamming frauds"... and asked them to be recruited to dm! Seems as He changed his mind about them... too bad I had ALREADY recuited them before they were harrassed, degraded and threatend ever so childishly in public on our site.. excuse me YOUR SITE!! and I quote: sultan: guess who called me today? jennae: verbal abuse man? sultan: he is trying to recruit me... sultan: your not the only one to quit apparently jennaedmusic : after how he treated you? sultan: he said several people did... jennae: good jennae: he was WAY jennae: out of line jennae: it embarrassed me heavily jennae: i will not support him then he proceeds to tell me that after leflaw tried to chum up to him that leflaw then tells him how i am trouble! sultan: he called you a trouble maker today and told me to 'look out' for you I'M TROUBLE???? HOW DARE YOU CALL ME THAT! uh huh I Travelled 8 hours and how many miles larry, to support your Baltimore debate... and did lef even give any of us the courtesy of a handshake and a Thank you for coming???? Nope. and back in july when we had that XXX pic being uploaded on dm issue, how he publically told everyone Thumbtack quit over me and how everyone thought i left becuase of the topic at hand.... tell them all how you noted me about how I ruined your site and how I was so terrrible for dm, they didn't read your notes did they larry?? They don't know why I really left do they?? or what was said back then do they?? NOPE! matters not! heh.. and we both know why THUMBTACK, quit (whom mind you if this man hated me so much and quit over me) why did i just spend 3 days at his house on my way to Baltimore... who really made him quit ? (inserts myself as scape goat ) Let someone else answer the members questions for you, help them set their pages up, apologize for you when you have a pissy on someone or make excuses for why you can't be bothered to ever note them back. I've done a lot for dm, and have cleaned up many messes you don't even know about because I have until now cleaned them up for you. I pity the new members and admin that rely on you for execution. meh.. you're right .. i didn't do indeed larry indeed. well todays your lucky day! you won't get from me anymore! leflaw Date: December 20, 2003 @ 6:20 PM "I accuse you of being surreptious, deceitful and dishonest." as I do you LARRY... isn't it true you called Rick Iantosca and represented yourself as THUMBTACK to him, lying about how BILL Evans was the owner of dmusic. for the life of me I couldn't figure out how rick kept thinking bill owned the site, until I figured it out that you LIED to rick IANtosca, and without bill evans knowledge you falsely represented yourself as him. Bill, nor Rick appreciated this at all, and out of curiousity, how many other times did you falsely represent Bill or anyone else?? who's a liar? indeed. our fearless leaderat his best: http://www.dmusic.com/forum/leflaw/6071 well then ... I guess I have a certain amount of respect for others, normally, but i have lost all for the owner of this site. I don't care if you are the president of the united states you don't treat people like that! and shame on me for stooping so low in this response but eh.. fuck it nothing to lose and in ending this rant anyone that puts a front page BOUNTY on a member at $500 for their personal information on a music site... ( kneo ) and treats people in this manner is definitely not conducting good business. Nor worthy of my help, time, assistance or presence. I'm tired of it! "Don't piss in my face and tell me its raining." touche damn shame dm ain't mine... I'd at least I'd treat people right. get a PR larry, you shouldn't be dealing with the public. to anyone who gives a damn, the rest of you were great and will be sorely missed for once we agree. No one wants to be made to feel the way some of us have made some others feel in recent events. Cryxan: The problem isn't with people taking the internet too seriously, it's with some not taking it seriously enough. DMusic is a business. A business on the internet, one with a specific cause and goal. And behind each of these usernames is a human being sitting behind a computer. At work, at home, at their parents', at their boy/girlfriend's place... each with a unique character, past, and personality. Some are young, some old, some are pro artists, some are learning their way, some are here to listen, some are here to work. We are all people, and once you're around DM for a while, you begin to recognize the different personalities associated with the pretty avatars. It's not "just the internet," Kev. It's real people gathered in a very real place, using a real form of communication to participate in this community. Maybe it's not a big part of YOUR life, but that doesn't change the realness of this place. 12/24 1:36 AM I can't belive you called another music website larry to tell them i was trouble... you deserve this post. indeed you do.
Erikkah	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 5:43 AM "I Travelled 8 hours and how many miles larry, to support your Baltimore debate... and did lef even give any of us the courtesy of a handshake and a Thank you for coming???? Nope. " and this place says they support indie artist about as well as the industry apparently! Bill Hudson will validate and agree... hell he didn't even get mentioned in the article write up post this debate. As a matter of fact NO artist other than jennae got any mention at all about donating their time & efforts to this debate what so ever. shame really.
KevBrock	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 6:40 AM Well Chillinbuzz, just like your screen name says you need to Chill as well. None of my posts in that thread had nothing to do with her. I don't see how you or she would make such a big deal about this. You overreacted on something small that's not that big of a deal. Lighten up. Since this is the internet whether you like it or not, you will be getting negative people. I was being negative at the contest hosts. Stop making a big deal over this, get over it and move on. It's that simple. Just continue to complain about me about this, is going to make things worse around here and you're not solving anything.
ChillinBuzz	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 6:52 AM Kev, you need to BACK OFF. You are way out of your depth on this issue, you seem to think you know a damn sight more than me or Jen... well face it, you don't, so YOU chill. ok? You read one side and base one opinion on that. That I am afraid is only your problem. Since my views in general weren't even directed at you and the extra posting in my shout was written by Jen, to take a pop at me was a really stupid mistake. It shows you really dont have a clue of what's going on around you. Now you have me started. There was no complaint from me personally to you. At least, not until now. And since you can't seem to digest what is spilling out over 3 threads and see beyond the simple fact that everything was intended for the good of the site, by people who have done work and given time for this place LONG before you appeared, then I can suggest only one thing. You come and find me on a chat app. And we talk about this. IF you don't want to understand the real reason for this debacle and pointless fury from boss to community and vice versa, you just keep kissing... indeed
Arthen	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 9:07 AM Relax Buzz...like you said he has totally no clue about his surroundings.....let him be.
Arthen	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 9:08 AM "I'm just doing this to be a nice guy and make her feel better." WHAKUWHAUKWHWUAHKWHKWUHKWUAHWKAUWHAK!!!!!
TameasDust	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 9:19 AM You know what I HATE ... I hate when i leave my lighter on the other side of the room .... DAMMIT GRRRRRRRRRRR ... AAAAAAAAAAAHHHH I feel better now .... almost as good as sex
dragonbreath	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 10:23 AM I just been reading these threads... WOW....... I am amazed.. Havn't ya got better things to do ? Kev Brock..... The way I see it.... U stirred the pot and made the stew... You were the person that fired everyone up...little stirrer... I hope ya like the taste.. cos U are eating it mate.... Give ya a few bullets and ya just gotta shoot it! This whole thing probably would not have got to the degree it got to, if ya had kept your big gob shut! (Goddam brainless catalyst! Sad guy, Sad accuser.) OK... I am out of here... Delete me admin person... shame cos I think this would be a real nice place for a muso to hang out...
soundsseeker	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 10:47 AM Usually I don't like to stick my nose in...but I do like to keep up with things here on DMusic...I have seen some silly goings on over the past few months but strike that up to a bunch of people with their own bunch of opinions...but anyway I must say that Jennae was one of the most visual and welcoming attributes of this site. She was the one who put personality (as far as I can see) to this site(community), of course there are a lot of others here just as nice and helpful but she always seemed to go the extra mile,,,...she was encouraging but not ass-kissing.... KevBrock---your a turd who does'nt know when its time to stop. Don't take it personally man its just thats the way it comes off to most people reading these threads and you can bet that everyone is glued to this set of threads until it is straightened out or blows over.. Please for everyones sake lets let some cool heads prevail, apologies be made where possible and move on to better times...
ebarbarella	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 11:11 AM please! Jenn
billhudson	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 12:26 PM "Bill Hudson will validate and agree..." Wow, I guess I miss something. And yes, I was wondering about all that but I'm just a musician who did a gig. It would be nice to get some respect but in this world there are no guarantees. As to meeting Jennae.... I would say anyone that gets this women on her side is a big plus! She is a hard worker and I wish I could afford to hire this person. So one would really have to step off the radar screen to get her upset. Besides all that, I hope the Xmas sprirt is somewhere out there. This Xmas I am trying to give more of what little I have to others. Trying to make all thoses mean faces turn to smiling, somehow,someway. Still Pickin' Bill Hudson
robin101	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 12:38 PM KevBrock, You’ve aligned yourself with Leflaw. That’s why you’re being jumped on (aside from the half apology). Truth is, There’s a lot more stuff that goes down on DM than some are aware of, especially a new-comer. What you’re experiencing is the wrath of the many, who would probably like to take it out on Leflaw (but are afraid to because he is the owner). (…wait…or is that “Bill Evans”?, I get confused sometimes). I am from the record industry. You can verify that by going to my site, or checking out my name at “all music.com”. Although I’ve been aware of some ridiculous things that go on here (with admin), I have assisted those who I could - only because Jennae kept me on - board. This site is infected, needs a strong anti-biotic and a lot less bifurcation. As far as an assist goes, I obviously hold the most clout (as per my credentials). But, as long as Jennae is gone, SO AM I. This is all nonsense, and you inadvertently have become part of the problem by joining the wrong side of an argument. The problem is deeper than you realize. This could have all been avoided (less one note from Leflaw to Jennae). Bet you didn't know that. As for the rest of you, I’m around in case you need an assist. As always, I’m glad to help. Most of you know how to reach me. If not you can reach me through Jennae. I am truly sorry to go, but this is, in fact, worse than the major record industry. Don’t fret though, I do believe Leflaw is as good as any industry attorney (maybe - better). Further, the next time anyone knocks the RIAA, think about Dmusic in the same context. I don't support the industry for this kind of behavior... so how can continue to support this site? So Long, I’m Out of Here, Rick Iantosca (Robin101)
dragonbreath	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 1:14 PM Rick I have not been here long About time someone saw it as it is! This is a wonderful site ... so much talent... nice layout ... a wonderful place for musos to interact... But one or two here need to grow a little! They provoke! How many of the guys and ladies here have bitched about a healthy up front contest and yet have posted tunes on the net (mp3.com) .(soundclick.com) etc. etc. ect... there are many of these sites,,, yet they shout about people "stealing" their tunes? (Kev Brok maybe?) Don't mess around! post it.... anywhere .. any how... Like all of us.. U got a million to one chance! If someone wants to promte it (cos they hear it by accident!) and you hear it on the radio... U have proof of copyright... nail the buggers after they have done all the publicity and hard work... and made all the money for your tune! Get real guys... How many people on shitty home studios can become overnight sensations? We produce better music than U can buy... But who cares? Drag...
victorsskull	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 1:27 PM pagan and sinai1 need to be bitch slapped for being heartless basterds
Pagan	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 1:35 PM i agree with vic.
victorsskull	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 1:49 PM oh Im sorry you to smelvin
Pagan	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 3:32 PM i volunteer to bitch smack smelvn.....only if some one volunteers to spank me with a wire brush instead of bitchslap me. i never learn my lesson with bitchslapping. but give me 1500-2000 lashings with a wire brush or paddle i straighten right up.
Lcrowley	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 4:59 PM WOW ....
TameasDust	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 5:36 PM seems there is a need for a knock down drag out fight then we can all be friends again seems to be the venting season ... all of which has been building up for a while. that this person or that person gets the blame for this or that is mute ... heck it coulda been any of us who triggered the landslide ... as for laughing at this or that we will look back on this and be embarrassed by what has happened and in looking back wonder what all the fuss was about ... sure feelings got hurt and things were said that didnt have any meaning toward the whole topic but can I get in line for the lashings .... wildas says i need them
KevBrock	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 6:03 PM Dissing me and blaming everything on me is just sad. Seriously. I think she brought it upon herself, if she ignored it in the first place, things would be fine.
KevBrock	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 6:05 PM Enough of the bullshitting folks. I made this simple apology thread and I get the disrespect around here for no apparent reason. As I said, get over it, ignore it and move on. There's no need for this soap opera.
KevBrock	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 6:08 PM My discussion with leflaw on that contest is just a discussion over the contest? Is my discussion really that big of a deal to get worked up over for? No. Lighten up people. It's christmas, YEEeeesshh. This is a damn discussion forum and people will discuss and views opinions however they want. It seems like you're teaching me how to post, well do yourself a favor and stop teaching me how to post. I speak what's on my mind to get everything off my chest.
KevBrock	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 6:11 PM I'm going to note an admin to lock this pointless thread. I thought I would be a nice guy, but unfortunately everyone thinks I'm an asshole because of that small discussion on that contest which isn't that big of a deal. If there is a way I can talk to Jennae in private, I will apologize to her that way instead of publicily. Thanks for being a merry christmas in here folks (sarcasm).
Thaspian	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 6:11 PM Kev, yes, we musn't blame you. The mentally challenged(evident from your speech impetiment displayed in your music) should be praised for even finding their way around the internet. I for one, congratulate you for merely being here, to take part in this. And as is shown, those with special needs do not know how to act in an arguement and do not see these faults, and pounce on the smallest of things, and react without guilt when proven wrong. I understand this.
KevBrock	Date: December 24, 2003 @ 7:30 PM Call someone mental is very immature. I'm done fighting with you guys. This feels like kindergarten class.

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