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Are Rappers Vocalists that can't sing?

TameasDust	Date: November 21, 2005 @ 12:42 PM What do you think ...
shadowself	Date: November 21, 2005 @ 1:09 PM I am a vocalist who can't rap.
shadowself	Date: November 21, 2005 @ 1:09 PM (point whore)
K3VIN	Date: November 21, 2005 @ 1:14 PM i am gonna try and sing one of these days
shadowself	Date: November 21, 2005 @ 1:30 PM I should try rapping. Hey K3VIN - we should do a collab, both of us doing what we do worst!
TonyV	Date: November 21, 2005 @ 2:09 PM I'm a mime who can't shut up.....am I broken?
K3VIN	Date: November 21, 2005 @ 3:22 PM that would be fun
BlackMage	Date: November 21, 2005 @ 4:36 PM I smell a DJ Chillie.
hantu	Date: November 21, 2005 @ 4:51 PM i can't rap or sing or anything
tooles	Date: November 21, 2005 @ 5:33 PM I dunno, some rappers really have a lyrical timbre to their voice when rapping--think of "Lose Yourself" by Eminem...the chorus has a distinct melody, but the 'singing' style is almost indistinguishable from the verse.
JasonJSmoke	Date: November 21, 2005 @ 8:11 PM I think Dizeazed would have somthing to say about this thread
woodhead	Date: November 21, 2005 @ 11:10 PM Rap in my mind is def an art, and yes I view rap as a form of singing ( I am a metal head ) all forms of music are cool and every musician ( artist ) should keep thier minds open, this will help you expand your mind and your art as well IMO.
TameasDust	Date: November 22, 2005 @ 3:31 AM dang I forgot about this one ...
DrXalagy	Date: December 12, 2005 @ 9:58 AM once i try to rap, but than man upstairs say "no rap or i kill you" and i stop and go back to guitar do americans like ramen?
MinisterofSc...	Date: December 12, 2005 @ 10:00 AM Are body guards dancers that have taken too many steroids?
DrXalagy	Date: December 12, 2005 @ 10:08 AM i no know what is body card? like armor suit?
K3VIN	Date: December 12, 2005 @ 12:51 PM nelly furtado
JDFreeSoul	Date: February 1, 2006 @ 11:54 PM yes
roast	Date: February 3, 2006 @ 8:20 PM What was the question again?
100thmonk	Date: February 4, 2006 @ 3:26 AM lauren hill missy elliot michael franti, cee-lo green, lyrics born j-5!! some rappers can "sing" others do there own thing.. it just depends on if you believe that singing is just for those who wish to utilize linear and vertical harmony, in conjunction with lyric . or do you believe that singing is the use of the voice as an instrument to convey some message. you'd have to question bob dylan,neil young, the velvet underground, leonard cohen, laurie anderson, david byrne and a large slew of other great artists whose success didn't rely on whether or not they were concerned about the pitch they were singing. in the end it appears to me that rap is just an extension or mutation that grew from euro electro beat, fusing with afro/latin/jamaican american traditons like"doing the dozens" (this is something which is present in african and latin american culture and is a sort of game of insults, played between two competitors, who see who can outdo the other with the creativity of their insults) it was probably the first obvious musical take on this, which i think personally came out of the jamaican dj/soundsystem scene. in other words there is a strong history and tradition that precedes rap and treats this form no differently than it would singing.. rap really had it predecessor in the mcs, like, i roy, and,yabby yu,niney the observer, jah stitch,tappa zukie, big youth and others
remedyakafocus	Date: February 21, 2006 @ 7:19 PM others like me
EchoMinor	Date: February 21, 2006 @ 9:24 PM i am on the fence when it comes to rappers being musicians. there are some rappers that have some rather nice rhythm and are really really creative. those types imo are musicians. BUT alot of people asume just because they own a copy of FL Studio or a Keyboard means that they can now rap and be considered musicians... especially the ones that go to great lengths to make everything rhythm to the point its obvious they are overdoing it.
pmscpc	Date: February 22, 2006 @ 9:07 AM I'm spending a lot of time trying to sing at the moment... and I'm still crap... does that count ? Anyone who CAN sing and is willing to move next door and do the singing for me is more than welcome.... like Stephanie Newport, for example FourCal said: "alot of people asume just because they own a copy of FL Studio or a Keyboard means that they can now rap and be considered musicians..." I think that goes for a lot of us... erm: "I run Logic Audio and have Purple Acoustic foam on my wall... therefore I MUST be a professional". (I'm taking the piss out of myself here, in case anyone also has the Logic & Purple foam combination)
hantu	Date: February 22, 2006 @ 9:32 AM hehe wouldn't that be something?
EchoMinor	Date: February 23, 2006 @ 1:31 AM pmscpc do play any of the following: guitar, bass, keyboards, sing? if so then be proud of your purple foam
K3VIN	Date: February 23, 2006 @ 10:13 AM like singers with some bands.. they may not play any instruments and let other people do the instruments... as is rappers will rap while other people do the making of beats.. its the same thing of a rapper going on stage and having something palaying in the background as a band not playing and it being fake.
EvalLin	Date: April 10, 2006 @ 12:59 PM Once i performed a concert in my dreams, on the third song i just started to rap, very strange, maybe i should try it in reality
BaBiKoLeAn	Date: April 10, 2006 @ 1:12 PM not necessarily! there are a ton of famous rappers who CAN sing... laurynn hill, usher (my way album), missy elliot, etc. even on dmusic, there are a couple of emcee's whose vocals are pretty nice... jpro, jv, and ten for instance. one day, i'll try to rap. you can all laugh at me then. haha.
TameasDust	Date: June 19, 2006 @ 10:13 AM
hantu	Date: June 19, 2006 @ 10:58 AM lol @ Tams Are rappers not the drums of vocalists?
thesoloer	Date: June 20, 2006 @ 4:59 PM I'm trying to rap... but it'd be better for me not to sing and it's better for me to stay as far away from singing as I can.
Woof	Date: June 20, 2006 @ 10:36 PM Everybody can sing. Unless they're mute, that is. Everybody with a voice can rap, too. How well they can do either, is a matter of debate.
JamesThomson	Date: June 21, 2006 @ 2:22 PM People use rap as expression and rapping is pretty different to singing: kinda like scat singing. I think it's more of a case of conformity than not being able to sing. But saying that I'm not a big fan of rap. same question for screamers in "emo" bands.
JamesThomson	Date: June 21, 2006 @ 2:22 PM People use rap as expression and rapping is pretty different to singing: kinda like scat singing. I think it's more of a case of conformity than not being able to sing. But saying that I'm not a big fan of rap. same question for screamers in "emo" bands.
thesoloer	Date: June 21, 2006 @ 8:38 PM I know but the only problem I have when singing is that I like CANT you know, get the words out, and when I try to rap I begin to sound like I'm singing sometimes... ha.
Opossum	Date: June 21, 2006 @ 11:43 PM Rapping is different to singing, in a similar way playing a real piano with velocity sensitivity is different than playing a reed organ with no velocity sensitivity, yet I still prefer an organ shuffle over a similar piano motif. Does that make sense? In other words, rapping and singing both have their own unique nuances of expression.
zedsalt	Date: June 22, 2006 @ 11:57 AM Same thing happens to me, soloer. I wasn't going for Rap in the strictest sense, more of an attempt at the kind of spoken asides one hears in Doo Wop and Motown type of stuff. Every time I've tried to do one, I chicken out and improv a melody. On the plus side, they've all been decent melodies so far.
jewsus	Date: June 30, 2006 @ 7:35 PM i don't know, but everytime i hear eminem sing i get the urge to punch a baby.
ThePurified1	Date: July 29, 2006 @ 1:42 AM Totally. I hate rap, none can sing.
Opossum	Date: July 29, 2006 @ 5:47 AM It depends greatly on the style as well. There is even at least one form of ska that I can't stand (only heard the tune in TV commercials, though) and as far as Eminem goes, I wouldn't punch a baby, but I'd volunteer to practice my boxing with him.
EchoMinor	Date: July 30, 2006 @ 12:34 AM well the way they rap is very rhythmic, interesting patterns etc. it may not be singing as we know it, but its interesting in its own right as music. i am not really into rap, but i do dig LL
Intergalacti...	Date: July 30, 2006 @ 7:16 AM thats like saying is a sing a vocalist that can't rap?-in my eyes did we have a thread on this before?
TameasDust	Date: August 1, 2006 @ 1:49 PM why yes we did ... does that mean we can delete this one
ray104	Date: December 16, 2007 @ 4:25 PM Timbaland charmillionaire nelly R-Kelly Lumidee Ciara nate dogg and warren G Justin timberlake ja Rule DMX
moam	Date: December 16, 2007 @ 5:04 PM On 16th Dec 2008, ray104 said: Timbaland charmillionaire nelly R-Kelly Lumidee Ciara nate dogg and warren G Justin timberlake ja Rule DMX What the fuck was the point of that??
Tattoomom	Date: December 16, 2007 @ 10:07 PM DR. SEUSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GeneHilbert	Date: December 17, 2007 @ 12:37 AM Sam I am.......
MickeyBreezy	Date: December 18, 2007 @ 1:06 AM you know, i have always said, the reason that i rap is because i can't sing, if i could sing, i probably wouldn't rap. i just do what i am good at, but i would love to be a singer instead.
ray104	Date: December 18, 2007 @ 11:17 PM On 18th Dec 2008, MickeyBreezy said: you know, i have always said, the reason that i rap is because i can't sing, if i could sing, i probably wouldn't rap. i just do what i am good at, but i would love to be a singer instead. Now there's someone who knows thier limits! I am hyper.
zedsalt	Date: December 19, 2007 @ 1:21 PM Feh, I'm sure there are as many different singing talent/rapper ratios as there are rappers. And having heard a MB song or two, I'd probably reword Ray's post to read, "...knows his strengths and weaknesses".
BlackMage	Date: December 19, 2007 @ 2:47 PM On 16th Dec 2008, moam said: What the fuck was the point of that?? Asks the great thread necroer.
pullmytrigger	Date: December 21, 2007 @ 10:25 AM Rap is singing.. Quote from dictonary.com.. "to utter words or sounds in succession with musical modulations of the voice; vocalize melodically." ok... utter words?? well when i bust out a rap for the guys when we are on our way to play poker the would say im uttering... they would say im vocalizing melodically because of course im using my voice to vocalize my words with the music.. ok to the point. just because a lot of people dont like nor understand some of the lyrics rap artists say, doesnt mean they arent singing.. you have to realize that there are people that appriciate rap. therefore, to them at least, it is singing. P.S. i play guitar and enjoy playing rock.. i still recOniZzzzzze!!!
Cryxan	Date: December 25, 2007 @ 5:04 PM Rap is music and rappers are vocalists. Because rap is a vocal expression of music and requires skill to get it right. I think these rap threads pop up once in a while because there's a lot of really bad rappers out there who think they're totally awesome. And they get started by people who don't like rap. Anyone remember this gem? url
LZith	Date: March 5, 2008 @ 8:32 AM Rappers cant sing Singers cant rap
Tattoomom	Date: March 5, 2008 @ 10:06 AM Snappers can't sning...
ChillinBuzz	Date: March 5, 2008 @ 3:11 PM Blondie - Rapture.
Opossum	Date: March 5, 2008 @ 3:15 PM Do men from Mars eat guitars?
Cryxan	Date: March 5, 2008 @ 9:38 PM They do. I've seen it with my own eyes.