DMusic.com | for indie musicians and fans | Free MP3 music downloads - Forums: The General Forum: favorite things learned about singing.

Forums > The General Forum

favorite things learned about singing.

Snoogans775	Date: August 17, 2008 @ 10:08 PM well, I'm just getting off of a Mike Patton binge right now, and I've learned some great stuff from the guy which I think I've broken down to it's simplest elements, and here goes. 1.singing is all about contrasts i.e. vowels and sounds and fart noises and dog barks. to make an effect one can sing three dimensionally by changing the perspective which EACH LINE or even EACH WORD is sung from. that's how things happen, that's also one way they can be sung. but, my question now, is... HOW DO GET BACK TO SINGING LIKE MYSELF?!
zedsalt	Date: August 18, 2008 @ 3:57 AM You never stopped singing like yourself; the meaning of "like yourself" has changed. Mike's influence has both gilded and soiled you, blessed and cursed you forever. There's no unringing that bell.
zedsalt	Date: August 18, 2008 @ 3:59 AM The good news is that ruts like this tend to come and go without anyone but the most fanatic fan ever noticing...and they're not the type to bothered terribly by ruts.
Snoogans775	Date: August 18, 2008 @ 10:48 AM yeah, I suppose this wrinkle'll work itself out.
GeneHilbert	Date: August 18, 2008 @ 11:20 AM Buy not imitating others is the obvious answer. However honestly - you can only be yourself......
ChillinBuzz	Date: August 18, 2008 @ 2:37 PM I love Patton's singing voice during the FNM days... Quite a character offstage too, I hear...
Tattoomom	Date: August 18, 2008 @ 2:58 PM I learned I can hold notes longer if I'm mostly naked.....
Snoogans775	Date: August 18, 2008 @ 11:34 PM If I hsd the effort to look up a googly eyed emoticon, I would. I looooooove singing naked! you can also look and see all the funky things your body does when singing, it's particularly cool for guys, because, yeah, you guessed it. that's it, if I want to retain a control over my own artistic persuasions, I'll jsut keep my eyes on the balls.
perkie1973	Date: August 20, 2008 @ 2:42 PM I love DMusic
perkie1973	Date: August 20, 2008 @ 2:43 PM I love DMusic
vzeye	Date: August 22, 2008 @ 12:28 PM I find it most important to make sure the listener can understand every word. So often vocalists get buried by the instrumental tracks and nobody (or almost nobody) knows what they are even saying. When I record, I normally have the words written out in front of me, that way I don't stray too far from the intended lyrics. Ain't life wonderful?
Snoogans775	Date: August 25, 2008 @ 12:21 AM I learned how to sing in a choir situation, so diction was priority numero supero uno all the time. then I heard my first Radiohead record, I didn't understand one goddamned word Thom said, but I loved it. it's gotten to a sort of compromise now, where I adore emphasizing the way words SOUND but I also feel that I occasionally write lyrics that are decent enough to actually by communicated clearly. definitely sick of that muddyvoiced thing though, wtf? it's wonderful how a little diction can radically increase the coherence of a singer without any other changes.
zedsalt	Date: August 25, 2008 @ 3:24 AM I occasionally write lyrics that are still incoherent even when my enunciation is perfect. Well, o.k., more than "occasionally"...
GeneHilbert	Date: August 25, 2008 @ 6:05 AM Pitch & Diction are the very heart of singing. It is presently in vogue to bury the vocals in rock tunes. I will put money on the fact that this was started purely as an attempt to cover up someone’s shitty pitch and diction. I regularly comment here on my opinion of a vocalist pitch & diction. And I recommend that when singing and recording you focus on your best performance. You never know who is listening.
Snoogans775	Date: August 26, 2008 @ 9:43 PM well, gene, I'm glad you've always been there to remind me of pitch whenever I was toying with my physical limitations. but I don't think that diction should be narrowly interpreted in either good or bad terms. even though true professionals will always search for people who have a strong command of their basic sound production fundamentals, there are a slew of singers out there who have extended the criterion for what types of diction can be used effectively in music. good classical diction has been emphasized in every major vocal technique textbook since time immemorial from Lehmann to all these new SLS thunderstud fuckwads whom are now roaming our planet. they are based on cultural definitions of sound production mixed with a solid understanding of how the vocal mechanisms can operate most comfortably and sustainably. but, yes, I'm going to say it...FUCK THAT! pitch and diction are two extremely critical parameters of vocal sound production, but it does not constitute what can most powerfully convey a musical element. from Japanese Ainu throat singing to North indian rhymthmic singing elements to Tom Jones, the only deciding factor in the worth of a musical standard is how it affects the performers and listeners of the music. diction becomes an absolute shitstorm of dynamic possibilities when one pushes their vocal instrument beyond the very refined, yet narrowly constructed tonal systems of western diction. When I perform or practice with my vocal instrument, my ultimate goal is to have relaxed, comfortable control, which will not excessively damage any part of my body(strong punches to the gut may cause amazing sounds, but they're just not worth it.) With a relaxed and flexible method of creation, we are capable of anything, and that is the only way we will grow beyond our current keyhole and view the infinite possibilities which will then be available to choose from. I just wish I had more time to practice my pitch though, I still suck with those long tones(stupid diaphragm!)
evansorchid	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 11:53 AM Hmmmm.....what I've learned about singing..... The 'pitch shifter' function on my music software is my best friend. ....and chorusing.....enough can't be said about chorusing. ....and compression, jeez......how could I forget compression. ............
GeneHilbert	Date: August 30, 2008 @ 1:01 PM (stupid diaphragm!) - Very Important....... Support Baby.... Support
evansorchid	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 9:22 AM Diaphragm??? I think my girlfriend used to use one of those.
Tattoomom	Date: August 31, 2008 @ 9:38 AM Gene: Was this the support you needed?
Snoogans775	Date: September 21, 2008 @ 7:26 PM yeah, you just swallow one of those. and let the mysterious sexual undertones sizzle.

Post A Reply
From:	Guest	(Icons - Linking)
Post: